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Wahid Azal

The Experience of Larry Rowe with
I was banned from All Beliefs for supposed misrepresentation. My misrepresentations? Referring to the Baha'is who have their world centre in Haifa as Haifan Baha'is. For referring to the Baha'i World Faith as Baha'ism. For putting up a link to Karen Bacquets web page and then being accused of putting up an antibahai link, lol! Anyone who knows Karen knows she is anything but antibahai, she is anti fundamentalism as it concerns the Baha'i Faith but apparently liberal Baha'i views are considered to be antibahai on All Beliefs. When I pointed out that Baha'is refer to themselves as the people of Baha' as well and that therefore Baha'ists and or Baha'ism are legitimate terms for those that refer to themselves as: the people of Baha', it was ignored.

It is quite apparent that the only Baha'i point of view which is allowed to be expressed on All Beliefs is the Haifan Baha'i POV. Sad. I communicated with the site owner and he seemed like a fair minded person it is too bad though that he has allowed the Haifan Baha'i clique to take control over the supposedly 'all beliefs' agenda of his site and to force him into banning those who express views which are not approved by Haifan Baha'ism or in any way critical of Haifan Baha'ism. To be honest he needs to remove the all from all beliefs.


Larry Rowe

My Experience

I started discussing about the various Baha'i sects and was Banned.


Mirza Husayn Ali Baha'u'llah spoke-wrote these words can anybody deny this:

Whatsoever hath led the children of men to shun one another, and hath caused dissensions and divisions amongst them, hath, through the revelation of these words, been nullified and abolished.
(Baha'u'llah, Gleanings from the Writings of Baha'u'llah, p. 95)

Mirza Husayn Ai-Baha'u'llah actually councilled his followers to shun his own half brother Azal as well as Azal's family, children included; do you deny this?

It is Mirza Husayn Ali's own words and actions which make him a hypocrite, I cannot make him anything that his own words and actions do not prove all on their own.

So to with the words and actions of Abbas Effendi-Abdu'l-Baha' whose own words and actions indict him:

Let them see no one as their enemy, or as wishing them ill, but think of all humankind as their friends; regarding the alien as an intimate, the stranger as a companion, staying free of prejudice, drawing no lines.
(Abdu'l-Baha, Selections from the Writings of Abdu'l-Baha, p. 1)

Abbas Effendi actually councilled his followers to shun his own half brother Muhammad, to see him as well as his family, children included, as enemies. Do you deny this?

Shoghi Effendi was so inflicted with this mental and spiritual ailment that not one of his own family members was spared, not even his own parents ! This even though he wrote these following words:

The principle of the Oneness of Mankind -- the pivot round which all the teachings of Bahá'u'lláh revolve -- is no mere outburst of ignorant emotionalism or an expression of vague and pious hope.
(Shoghi Effendi, The World Order of Baha'u'llah, p. 42)

All of this contradiction and hypocrisy of the founders of the Baha'i faith is proof of one thing. Proof of how easy it is to give voice to such universal principles as the oneness of humanity but so difficult for people with human foibles to put such universal principles into practice in their own lives.

Even though Abbas Effendi voiced this reiteration of his father Mirza Husayn Ali's supposed beliefs neither he or his father nor Shoghi Effendi nor the UHJ has had the integrity to put this teaching into practice in their own lives:

A fundamental teaching of Bahá'u'lláh is the oneness of the world of humanity. Addressing mankind, He says: "Ye are all leaves of one tree and the fruits of one branch." By this it is meant that the world of humanity is like a tree, the nations or peoples are the different limbs or branches of that tree and the individual human creatures are as the fruits and blossoms thereof. In this way Bahá'u'lláh expressed the oneness of humankind whereas in all religious teachings of the past, the human world has been represented as divided into two parts, one known as the people of the Book of God or the pure tree and the other the people of infidelity and error or the evil tree. The former were considered as belonging to the faithful and the others to the hosts of the irreligious and infidel; one part of humanity the recipients of divine mercy and the other the object of the wrath of their Creator. His Holiness Bahá'u'lláh removed this by proclaiming the oneness of the world of humanity and this principle is specialized in His teachings for He has submerged all mankind in the sea of divine generosity. Some are asleep; they need to be awakened. Some are ailing; they need to be healed. Some are immature as children; they need to be trained. But all are recipients of the bounty and bestowals of God.
(Abdu'l-Baha, Baha'i World Faith - Abdu'l-Baha Section, p. 246)

Even though Mirza Husayn Ali Baha'u'llah supposedly removed the past religious practice of dividing humanity he and each who followed in his footsteps religiously practiced the division of humanity as well as councilling their followers to do so.

If you choose to shut down your God given intelligence and reason that is your choice, when others refuse to do so think twice before criticizing them, that is unless you wish to show yourself as being a party to their contradiction and hypocrisy.

The actual contradictory words and actions of Husain Ali - Baha, Abbas, Shoghi and today the UHJ condemn them all. I am merely pointing out this fact.

If you espouse the oneness of humanity you had better be ready to embrace that belief in your own life, especially amongst your own family members. That is if you wish to be taken at all seriously.


Larry Rowe

Caste System in Baha'i Faith

Currently, the Baha'is think of humanity as being divided into a few official groups or castes. I have organized them in a list from "best" to "worst" based on how many rights they would have in a future Baha'i world order:

1. Baha'i in good standing
2. Baha'i with administrative rights removed
3. non-Baha'i
4. Covenant-breaker

If you include more subtle gradations, which may possibly acquire a greater degree of official status in the future, the list would look like this:

  1. Baha'i in good standing, active
  2. Baha'i in good standing, inactive
  3. Baha'i with some administrative rights removed
  4. Baha'i with all administrative rights removed (Feast attendance, voting, eligibility for election, contribution to Funds, contribution to Huququ'llah, plus anything I'm forgetting to mention)
  5. non-Baha'i (never been a Baha'i)
  6. ex-Baha'i, left voluntarily (not an opponent)
  7. ex-Baha'i, membership revoked/expelled by UHJ (not an opponent)
  8. opponent or enemy of the faith, non-Baha'i
  9. opponent or enemy of the faith, ex-Baha'i
  10. child or grandchild of Covenant-breaker, not practicing in Covenant-breaker organization
  11. Covenant-breaker, not officially declared by UHJ but member of Covenant-breaker organization
  12. Covenant-breaker, officially declared by UHJ
Groups 10-12 constitute the Baha'i version of the "untouchable caste." Groups 4-12 (the vast majority of categories) would not have the right to vote in elections for the highest governmental
positions, i.e. the Baha'i Houses of Justice that would have final authority at the local, national, and international levels.

How's that for unity of all people, huh?

Eric Stetson
(Group 11 - I think ;)

No Going Back

Recently I’ve had a spate of old friends from my days as a Baha’i seemingly trying to lure me “back into the fold” through various things like recounting fond memories or sending me the old “hey, howarya, have you gotten over your silly stage yet” emails, stuff like that. So I decided now was a good time to republish some older material and re-edit it to disabuse those old friends of the idea that I’d do any such thing as turn back from the road I’m currently on. It ain’t gonna happen, and here’s why.
I was a member of the Baha’i Faith from 1971 to 2003. When I joined in 1971, it seemed to fulfill all my longings, preaching a liberal if not radical social gospel while still appealing to my need for a spiritual basis for this kind of teaching. Among the beliefs emphasized were:
• The equality of men and women;
• The elimination of all forms of prejudice;
• World peace upheld by a world government organized on federalist principles;
• The independent investigation of truth;
• Universal education;
• Ending the extremes of wealth and poverty.

And more like this. What made it unique was that it was part of a religion! Baha’u'llah, the founder of the Baha’i Faith, claimed to be the messenger of God for this day, and that these social principals were what GOD wanted humanity to do. NOW!

You can imagine the attraction for someone like me – a progressive social agenda wedded to a spiritual base. And I wasn’t the only one of my particular bent to be thus attracted; the American and European Baha’i communities experienced a huge jump in youth conversions in the ’60s and ’70s. “Hippies” and spiritually-minded social radicals found the Baha’i Faith irresistible.

This influx of young, intelligent, educated, and enthusiastic new converts had a dramatic effect on the American Baha’i community. This newest generation of converts immediately became involved in all aspects of the Faith – writing articles, serving on the local governing boards of the religion, becoming vocal community advocates of what they perceived to be the important aspects of the Baha’i Faith. They were intent on bringing the Baha’i community into the mainstream of the effort to revitalize America and make it the spiritual as well as material leader of the world. They took seriously Shoghi Effendi’s (leader of the Baha’i Faith from 1921 – 1957) exhortation to keep the Faith at the “forefront of all progressive movements.” (The World Order of Baha’u'llah, p. 23)

But in the late 1980s the institutions of the Baha’i Faith began balking at the enthusiasms of this wave of idealists. Foremost in these efforts at stemming an activist tide was the constant reminder that Baha’u'llah told Baha’is to stay out of partisan politics and not to interfere in the workings of governments. And they imposed quite a literal interpretation of that principle. The Baha’i Faith teaches that racial discrimination is evil, but the institutions of the Faith deemed it unwarranted interference in the affairs of a “legally” elected government for Baha’is to be involved in the disinvestment movement against the apartheid regime in South Africa. Participation in peace and disarmament marches was first criticized and then outright forbidden, despite the fact that the Baha’i Faith claims to be working for a lasting world peace. There were other similar issues.


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Kyrgyzstan President signs New Religion Law Banning proselytism and deceptive conversions of children and Youths

by Ravian Bilani

President Kurmanbek Bakiev has signed the restrictive new Religion Law; The Law – which replaces the 1991 Religion Law - was approved by parliament on 6 November 2008. On 12 January, 2009 the presidential website reported:

Provisions under this law include: a ban on children being involved in religious organizations; a ban on "aggressive action aimed at proselytism"; a ban on the distribution of religious literature, print, and audio-video religious materials; and de facto compulsory re-registration of all registered religious organizations (see F18News 5 November 2008

The 12 January announcement on the presidential website trumpets the fact that 200 adult citizens permanently living in Kyrgyzstan will now be required before a religious community can apply for state registration, compared to 10 in the current Law. It says 10 registered religious organizations will be needed to form a "religious association".

The announcement stresses that "attracting children into religious organizations is not allowed, and insistent actions directed at turning believers of one faith to another (proselytism) are banned". It adds that "the distribution of literature, printed, audio and video materials of a religious character in public places (on streets and roads), and going round flats, children's institutions, schools and higher educational establishments is banned". It specifies that the Law "determines [official] control on the activity of religious organizations".

The announcement said the Law comes into force on its official publication. It said statutes of religious organizations must be brought into conformity with the new Law.

The announcement stresses that the "leading religious confessions of the country" – which it identifies as the Muftiate and the Russian Orthodox Church – had called on President Bakiev to sign the Law. "The majority of state bodies of the country likewise supported this Law."

The Baha’is now will be put under the scanner with this law and their so called moral children classes, the junior youth spiritual empowerment program,(JYSEP) and Ruhi Institute courses, the study circles which are nothing but deceptive way of propagation and conversion will come to standstill.

Echoing his concern over the ban on spreading one's faith is a member of the Baha'i community, who asked not to be identified. "We're not sure how we will be treated if we speak to someone about our faith," the Baha'i told Forum 18 on 13 January. "Will this be regarded as illegal propaganda?" The Baha'i said every religious believer will have to be more careful now. "We won't be able to say what we want to say, and we won't be able to listen to what we want to listen to."

P. Porsayeva

What has brought the Baha'i Faith to this juncture?

This place where several Baha'i sects vie to be recognized as the one and only true Baha'i sect? Where the Haifan Baha'i sect refuses to even recognize the very existence of other Baha'i sects, claiming that because those sects have so few adherents they are insignificant and virtually non-existent.

How is it that the lofty ideals and concepts that are supposedly central to Baha'i belief have been left in the dust in a blind pursuit to raise one version or another of a supposedly inviolable Baha'i covenant over the several other versions of that Baha'i covenant which are all held to be sacrosanct by those Baha'is who hold to those particular versions?

Why is it that respect for the diversity of religious interpretation is missing amongst all Baha'i sects? Why? Because a respect for the diversity of religious interpretation was not held or practiced by the founders of the Baha'i religion.

Although the founders of the Baha'i religion gave lip service to the principle of the oneness of religion they failed to recognize that they themselves were responsible to apply such principles in their own lives. Mirza Husayn Ali - Baha'u'llah failed to do this in regards to the Babi/Bayani faith and it's followers, Abbas Effendi - Abdu'l-Baha' failed to do this in regards to his own half brother Muhammad who chose to hold to a more unitarian interpretation of Baha'ism.

When exceptions are made to the oneness of humanity it is no longer true oneness, it is the same old same old religious exclusivity that has been practiced by religionists since the beginning of organized religion. When there is no respect for a true diversity of religious interpretation religion falters, it then becomes more of a source of disunity than it is source of unity; more of a bane to humanity than a boon.

The present situation amongst Baha'i sects is a case in point. Of course Haifan Baha'is will discount this reality stating that all other Baha'i sects are insignificant and unimportant. While each Baha'i will blindly cleave to their own religious interpretation all along allowing those interpretations to make a mockery of any pretense of a true belief in the oneness of humanity, the oneness of human spirituality.

What is the source of this profound dysfunction? The founders of the Baha'i religion themselves. Men who had words stating that shunning had been abolished, that humanity should no longer see others as their enemies, drawing lines, that the former religious practice of dividing
humanity had been removed; while all along out of the other side of their mouths came contradictory words, hypocritical words, counseling their followers to engage in the very religious practices they had supposedly left behind. What you see is the result of these contradictory and hypocritical religious teachings and religious practices.

If Baha'is of all sects truly believe in the oneness of humanity, truly believe in the oneness of human spirituality, they will have to leave the immature, ignorant, and contradictory religious practices of the founders of their religion behind them. They will have to truly embrace religious diversity, as well as diversity of religious interpretation and not see such diversity as a threat to their chosen orthodoxies but as genuine and healthy expressions of human spirituality. Until this occurs the Baha'i Faith as a religion will continue to be more of a source of disunity than it is a source of unity and humanity would be better off without it.


Larry Rowe

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Default Re: "The Baha'i Faith"

Originally Posted by arthra View Post
The Faith has been around a hundred and sixty years and arose amidst many enemies in the Middle East so is there any wonder there would be those who oppose it?

Within the Faith itself there is more unanimity than in most religions that are split into denominations..

Yes many have attempted to divide the Faith but the attempts failed. Every major change that has occurred a few have opposed it but they failed to cause significant schisms . . . .

- Art
You can argue that the attempts failed, Art, but they did their damage before they went down in flames. Shoghi Effendi left no stated successor and the first Hands of the Cause had to CB one of their own (Remey) who used to be so true to the faith.

I mean, really... think about it. Baha'u'llah is supposed to be the Manifestation of God. You'd think that at least he could keep his family in line. His brother fought him, his son's brother fought him, his grandson's own parents fought him (granted, his aunt stayed the course), and by the end of just two generations, every single member of Baha'u'llah's family were declared CBs.

Common sense is whispering to me that if Shoghi Effendi's relatives fought him, and Abdul Baha's brother fought him, and Baha'u'llah's brother fought him, it would stand to reason that Baha'u'llah fought the other Babis to come out ahead on the declaration of the Coming One.

Strife and discord are leagues deep in that family.

This debate can be accessed here

Pseudo-Messianic Movements In Contemporary South Asia.

Book : Pseudo-Messianic Movements In Contemporary South Asia.
Author : Yoginder Sikand
Publisher : Global Media Publications, New Delhi
Price : Rs. 399
Pages : 137 pages
Year of Publication : 2008


The emergence of a supernatural being who would restore the supremacy, hegemony and influence world over of a certain community or chosen ones during the End Times is a hope of a majority of religions. This messianic character whether the Awaited Imam Mahdi for Muslims, Kalki Avtar for Hindus, Messiah for Christians or Anti-Christ for Jews is a common similarity among all these faiths. From time to time scores of people have declared and presented themselves as the Awaited Ones. The case with Islam has been the same and a majority of these claims were made during the colonial period when Muslim nations were reeling under the hegemony and power of non-Muslim ruling elites. Though these claims had to face a stiff resistance and were sparsely successful in accomplishment of their respective goals but still they were able to drive a good chunk of Muslims to their ranks resulting in the formation of new sects, thus making the dividing wedge draw deep.
The present book under review is a study of three of these pseudo-messianic movements which emerged in the twentieth century in Muslim South Asia. The book is divided in three chapters each focusing on these respective movements.
The first chapter deals with the Deendar Anjuman whose founder Siddiq Husain claimed to be the Kalki Avatar awaited by Hindus so as to win them over to Islam but in doing so the movement lost its track, hence unable to formant a revolutionary change. It was also difficult for the Hindus to believe Siddiq Husain as the promised one because according to the Anjuman sources itself, "In early 1926, 33 Indian gurus had put forward the claim of being the “Jagat Guru or Teacher of the Whole World" (p. 27). So it was a Hobson's choice for the common folks.
The second chapter deals with the Atba-i Malak Bohra Jamaat which is a sect among Shia Muslims of India. As little has been written about the beliefs of this sect of Shia, this chapter is a pioneering effort in this field. It deals with the origin of this sect, its division in Badri and Vakili sub-sects and its emphasis on esoteric phase of Islam nullifying the exoteric one.
The third chapter deals with the messianic movement of Riyaz Ahmad Goharshahi, i. e The Mehdi Foundation International (MFI). Though Goharshahi Movement later split into two factions, Pakistan-based Anjuman-e Sarfaroshan-e Islam (ASI) and London-based MFI but the latter is more outspoken though ASI claims that MFI head Yonous al-Gohar concocted and interpolated the teachings of its founder. This chapter deals with the emergence, evolution, split and present stance of this movement, which as MFI claims is the saviour of the whole humanity as the image of this cult's founder appeared in large number of places, including the moon, the sun and numerous stars as well as churches, mosques, imam-bargahs and temples in addition to the Hajr-i-Aswad, according to their claims. The last topic discusses MFI's stance and America's War On Terror which the author has vividly depicted as pro-Imperialistic and anti-Muslim which MFI's statements try to camouflage by claiming that this War On Terror is a Divine punishment for Muslims because of their outright rejection of Riyaz Goharshahi as the Messiah whom even Prophet Muhammad (SAW), according to MFI claims, predicted and revered with high respect.
What were the causes which led these people claim Messianic interpretations leading to the creation of different cults? Maulana Abul Hasan Ali Nadwi answers these quries surprisingly: "When I read the histories of Batinite movement, of Ikhwan al Safa, of Bahaism (Baha'i Faith) in Iran and Qadianism in India, it seems to me that when the founders of these movements read the history of Islam and the life of the Prophet it struck them that a man, all by himself stood up with a mission in Arabia without any money to back him or any army to support him, he summoned people towards a creed, towards a religion and not after very long there came into existence a new ummah, a new state, and a new culture. They also noticed that single-handedly, the Prophet changed the direction of human history and forced events to flow into a different channel. The ambitious natures of these men then whispered to themselves: "Why not try?" These people knew that they had intelligence, remarkable mental capabilities and organising ability. They thought, therefore, that history might repeat itself in their case too, following the natural pattern of cause and effect. These people had expected the same kind of miraculous success to crown their efforts as had crowned the efforts of the unlettered Prophet of Arabia in the sixth century for, they thought, human nature remained always the same and if it had responded to Muhammad in the past, there was no reason why it should not respond to them now."
These persons did have a glimpse of the greatness of Muhammad (pbuh) who carried his movement to a successful end, but could not see the Divine support which was his real strength, nor the Divine will of which he was an instrument. The result was that for a very short period of time, the efforts of these ambitious people did bear some fruit. There gathered behind them a following, sometimes of several hundred thousand people. Some of them (e.g., Batinites) even succeeded in establishing a state of their own (the Fatimide State) which for sometime covered a fairly wide area from Sudan to Morocco. But all this remained only as long as they were able to maintain their organisational efficiency, their wizardry and their secret administrative network. But when these things were gone, all their power and glory also became a poignant memory of the past. With the loss of worldly power, the religious movement shrank and obscured and lost significance for human life. Against this, is the true Islam preached by the Last Messenger of Allah (pbuh). It constitutes today, as it constituted yesterday, a great spiritual force in the world, the guiding star and inspiration of a great ummah. It still possesses a distinctive culture which sprang from the spirit of its teachings. It is still the religion of a number of states and peoples. The Sun of Muhammad's Prophethood is still shining brilliantly in the sky. Never in history has it suffered an eclipse and it never will" (Qadianism : A Critical Study).
The author deserves our appreciation as he had delved on a unique topic which a majority of our researchers and scholars still continue to ignore.

Source : Milli Gazette, India.

Today is the Birthday of Baha'u'llah

Baha’u’llah and His teachings

From the Book of Samuel G. Wilson

BAHA’IS particularly boast of love as one of their characteristics. They often quote the words of Baha "to consort with all religions with spirituality and fragrance." Phelps claims for them [1] "a peculiar spirit, which marks them off from other men,--whose essence is expressed in one word, Love. These men are Lovers; lovers of God, of their Master and teachers, of all mankind." Dreyfus, with a forgetfulness or ignoring of facts that is astounding, says, "Their conduct is so perfect, their harmony so complete that although they have been there at Acca for forty years, no judge had yet to intervene for them in any dispute." Chase says "Baha’ism removes religious rancour." [2] Let facts speak. Let me array them first by showing the relation of the Baha’is to the Moslems, and then to the Azalis (see chapter on "Religious Assassination ") and finally to each other (see chapter on "The Quarrel over the Succession"). The Babis and Baha’is show great hatred and


1. Page 112.

2. Yet Phelps, p. 158, and Chase themselves inveigh against orthodox Christianity with bitterness and scorn.


animosity against the Shias of Persia, abuse and revile them and heap maledictions and curses upon them. These evil feelings are shown specially against the Mullahs and the rulers. The Babi and Baha’i historians indulge so much in diatribes and maledictions that Professor Browne wearies of translating them and omits pages of abuse. [1] More than enough is at hand to show the rancorous spirit of the new religion.

First take a short backward glance at the Babis. Professor Browne says: [2] "The Babis entertained for the Kajar rulers a hatred equal to that for the Mullahs." Mohammed Shah and Nasr-ud-Din Shah are called "bastard" and "scoundrel" and Mohammed Shah is consigned to hell at his death. The Shi'ites are called "foul Guebres" and the Mullahs heaped with abuse. "They hated the Mohammedan clergy with an intense and bitter hatred" and anticipated the fulfillment of the prophecy "when the Kaim or Mahdi should behead 70,000 mullahs like dogs." The Bab called Haji Kazim Khan, chief of the Sheikhis, "the Quintessence of Hell Fire and the infernal tree of Zakkum." He even at times emphasized his words with blows. [3] "When a prisoner in the household of Anti-Christ--that accursed one (i. e., the Shah), the Mullah of Maku showed him some discourtesy, whereupon the Ocean of Divine Wrath was stirred and He (the Bab) brought down his staff with such vigour on the unclean form


1. New Hist.," pp. 320 f, 281, 289.

2. Ibid., pp. xvii. and 354.

3. "Mirza Jani," pp. 131-132.


of that foul creature that the august staff broke in two. He then ordered Aga Sayid Hasan (his scribe) to drive out that dog from the room, though the accursed fellow was a person of great consideration." "The Bab took leave of his jailer, Ali Khan, with the words, 'Ay mal’oon ('Accursed One ')." [1] It is unnecessary further to enlarge on the feelings of the Babis towards the Shiahs, for the sanguinary wars and persecutions explain them and they made no secret of their feelings of hatred.

I pass on to the Baha’is, whom Abul Fazl claims were reformed and transformed by Baha. Baha'u'llah himself the "Iqaan" calls the Shias "a foul, erring sect," who said of his Turkish guards, "Shame upon them! God shall consume their livers with fire, and verily he is the fiercest of avengers" (Lawh-i-Rais) and who exultingly celebrated, in a hymn of triumph, the death of Fuad Pasha, [2] the vizier who had exiled him, and consigned him to hell "where the heart boils and the tormenting angel melts him." Baha's winsome words about the mullahs are, in the "Ikan," "1278 years have passed and all these worthless wretches have read the Koran every morning and have not yet attained to a single letter of the purport of it."

The spirit of love (?) is shown by Mirza Abul Fazl, the preacher and apologist for Baha’ism, in his discussion (1873) as recorded in the "New History." [3] His abusive language runs on page after page.


1. The New Hist.," p. 352.

2. Jour. Roy. As. Soc., 1892, p. 271.

3. Pages 173-190.


[page 212]

mullahs of Persia are called mischief-makers, dolts, a pack of scoundrels, tyrants, fools, plunderers of men's properties and wives, sectarian zealots steeped in prejudice and thinly disguising their greed of worldly lucre under a veil of sanctity, sprung from the rustic population and the scum of the towns, ignorant of the decencies of society and neglectful of good breeding, with wickedness, worldliness, rapacity and selfishness which are incurable and folly that exceeds all bounds and surpasses all conception, with stupidity, overweening arrogance and presumption absolutely unparallelled, hiding the truth in falsehood, circulating false reports, possessing malignant hatred, malice, spite and great injustice, and notoriously eager to shed blood, yet with cowardice like a timid girl.

He avers further that they are lacking in patriotism, nullify sovereign authority, encroach upon and usurp the power of kings, dismiss viziers, invite the people to rebel, cause national decay, set their feet upon the necks of all mankind, menace the order and well-being of the government, devour public wealth and substitute treason for service. "Perish their homes of folly whose learning is all pretense, their colleges which never yielded a man of sense." This is a condensation of the Baha’i philosopher's amiable (!) description of the chiefs of his national religion. The author of the "New History" almost surpasses him in abuse. [1] He compares the mullahs to a " host of foul reptiles who befoul and pollute the pure water


1. Pages 4-5, written 1880.


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of life so that it waxeth loathsome and abominable. . . They are fraudulent and sophistical hypocrites . . inwardly reprobate and outwardly devout, clothing themselves in the garb of spurious asceticism and simulated piety: fabricators of 'authentic traditions." Later Haji M. Haidar Ali, [1] writing by command of Abdul Baha, says of Persia, "The old religious sects . . . degenerated into ferocious wolves and mad dogs, even surpassing the ravenous man-eating beasts." Apropos of the martyrdom of Aga Sayid J afar of Abargoo, "Our Great Lord and Master Abdul Baha revealed the following in a Visiting Tablet "to be chanted at the tomb:" Hell is for such as rejected thee, fire for such as sentenced thee to death, infernal flame for such as betrayed thee, and the hellish gulf for such as shed thy blood." [2] These quotations show the vindictive spirit of the Baha’i leaders. Any one who is acquainted with Baha’is in Persia knows that this is the spirit that animates them, that they revile the Mutasharis and Sheikhis and especially their mullahs. They are brotherly and helpful to their own particular sect of Baha’is, vindictive to all who have opposed them. Doctor Frame quotes a Persian as saying this of the attitude of Abdul Baha, "He is very kind towards his friends and bitter towards his enemies. In view of all that has been brought forward, how can Mr. Phelps aver "that they have no trace of bitterness or resentment for their sufferings." The habit of Baha’is in denying that they have


1. "Martyrs of 1903," p. 3.

2. "Visiting Tablets," p. 12, N. Y. Baha’i Board of Counsel.

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animosity against other religions reminds me of one of their own stories. A certain mullah said to his friend, "If you notice in me any objectionable habit please inform me." "I perceive no fault in you," answered his friend, "save a habit of using abusive language." "Abusive language ! " cried the mullah. "What rascally knave calls me abusive? What shameless ruffian have I abused that he should dare accuse me?"

Orlando Baha'i Center goes up in flames

Arson investigators were looking Tuesday into two fires in three days that destroyed the Orlando Bahá'í Center in Orlando.

The first fire in the one-story wood building on Hillcrest Street was reported at 4:48 a.m. Sunday. When the Orlando Fire Department responded to the second blaze at 12:55 a.m. Tuesday, flames were shooting through the roof.

"It is unusual for something like that to happen, especially this much down time between the two," said Orlando Fire Department Commander Vicki Robles.

A spokesperson for the Bahá'í Center said the fires are baffling to the members, who number about 300 in the metropolitan Orlando area. Prior to the fires, there had been no threats, vandalism, or break-ins at the center, said Kelsey Vargas, secretary for the center's governing assembly.

"We don't have any reason to suspect that anyone would wish us harm," Vargas said.

The center was created in 1974, Vargas said. Until the Orlando center can be replaced, members plan to meet in each other's homes, Vargas said.

"For generations people have used it as a place for devotions and children's classes and for moral and spiritual development," she said. "People are very saddened that this has happened."

About four years ago, the center received a thick package of hate mail decorated with swastikas and containing a "Bin Laden" return address, said George Via, a member of the center. He said police suspected that it was sent by a mentally ill person.

The Bahá'í faith, which preaches unity of God, religion and mankind, originated in 19th century Iran and has more than five million followers worldwide. The Orlando center had just celebrated the birthday of one of the religion's prophets on Oct. 12 and was scheduled to observe the holiday of the birth of Bahá'í founder Bahá'u'lláh on Nov. 20.

Bahá'u'lláh is considered one in a long line of messengers from God that included Abraham, Buddha, Jesus, and Muhammad. For that reason, members of other religions Christianity, Islam and Buddhism, are welcomed and accepted at Bahá'í centers of worship.

The centers are gathering places for members of the faith, but are not considered temples or churches. The Bahá'í have no clergy and elect a governing assembly of nine members. Campaigning for office is forbidden.

"Anyone who wants to get elected," Via said, "is disqualified."

Henry Pierson Curtis of the Sentinel staff contributed to this story. Jeff Kunerth can be reached at or 407-420-5392.,0,1447745.story

Baha'i Covenant - Red Alert!

Babism : Bahaism and Azalism

A 2 minute talk by Saim D. Inayatullah

One More Book Published by Muslims in Pakistan

Qurat Ulain Tahira
Qurratu'l-`Ayn Tahirih

قرۃ العین طاہرہ
Author/Translator: Shahid Mukhtar
Price: $ 3.99
Format: Hard Cover, 160Pages, Weight: 300 gm
Product-Id: 1011161
Publisher: Shahid Book Depot
Publish date: 2006

طاہرہ اک مسلمان شیعہ گھرانہ میں پیدا ہونے کے باوجود جوانی میں جس مذہب میں رنگی گئی وہ بابی مذہب تھا- علامہ اقبال اپنے ڈاکڑیٹ کے مقالہ فلسفہ عجم میں بابیت پر بحث کرتے ہوۓ لکھتے ہیں "باب کی تعلیمات کا بنیادی ماخذ ملاصد رہ کا فلسفہ ہے جسے شیخ احسائی نے اپنایا اور اسکی تشریحات لکھیں- بابی افکار میں یہودیت،پارسیت،باطنیت اور قدیم ایرانی موبدیت کے واضع عناصر موجود ہیں یہ مذہب کے نام پر سیاسی اقدار کے حصول کی عجمی سازش تھی جو سیاسی ناکامی کے بعد مذہبی دنیا میں بہائیت کے نام سے ایک نئے روپ میں جلوہ گر ہے اور اس وقت اسلام دشمن طاقتوں کے ہاتھوں کا کھلونا ہے" ۔

شیخ احسائی سنی گھرانے میں پیدا ہونے کے باوجود شیعہ مسلک سے تعلق رکھتے تھے لیکن شیعہ مسلک اس عقیدہ سے اختلاف رکھتے تھے کہ "مہدی پیدا ہو چکے ہیں لیکن انھیں ڈھائی سال کی عمر میں ہی فرشتوں نے ایک غار میں چھپا رکھا ہے اور جب دنیا ختم ہونے کو ہو گی تو انکا ظہور ہو گا اور وہ دنیا کو عدل و انصاف سے بھر دیں گے" انکا کہنا تھا کہ امام غائب اس دنیا میں آئیں گے لیکن وہ امام غائب کے مثیل ہونگے ۔

امام مہدی کے ظہور کے بارے میں جو مختلف نظریات پاۓ جاتے ہیں انکا خلاصہ یہ ہے ۔

مہدی کے ظہور کی کوئی پیشنگوئی نہیں کی گئی صحاح ستہ میں نامعتبر راویوں کی احادیث صرف خلافت کے حصول کی حکمت عملی کے تحت شامل کی گئی تھیں ۔

طاہرہ کی ازدواجی زندگی

مرزا کاظم بیگ کے مطابق قرتہ العین کی نسبت پہلے برگن کے مجتہد آخوند محمد تقی سے ٹھہری تھی جبکہ دیگر مورخین کا کہنا ہے کہ اسکی نسبت بچپن سے ہی اسکے چچا ملا محمد تقی کے بیٹے ملا محمد سے طے پا چکی تھی اور اسی باعث 1831ء میں تیرہ سال کی عمر میں اسکی شادی ملا محمد سے کی گئی جس کا شمار اس وقت کے اچھے قابل علماء میں ہوتا تھا- یہ شادی بڑی دھوم دھام سے ہوئی تھی طاہرہ کے ایک گاؤں کے علاوہ بیش بہا قیمتی تحفے تحائف ملے جو ایک خزانہ کی حیثیت رکھتے تھے لیکن یہ شادی مذہبی نظریات کی بھینٹ چڑھ گئی طاہرہ اکژ کہا کرتی تھی کہ یہ شادی اسکی مرضی سے نہیں ہوئی تھی ورنہ اسکا شوہر سفروحضر میں اسکا ساتھ دیتا- 23 یا 26 سال کی عمر میں وہ دو بیٹوں اور ایک بیٹی کی ماں تھی- بڑے بیٹے کا نام محمد ابراہیم اور چھوٹے بیٹے کا نام محمد اسماعیل تھا- بیٹی اور بڑے بیٹے محمد ابراہیم کے حالات زندگی تاریخ کے اوراق پر محفوظ نہیں ہیں البتہ محمد اسماعیل کے نواسہ نعمت ورثا نے بہائی تحریک کی شاعری میں شہرت حاصل کی ۔

طاہرہ کی ازدواجی زندگی بابیت کی نذر رہی جسے اسکے خسر اور خاوند نے قبول نہیں کیا- یہ دونوں بابی تحریک کے زبردست مخالف تھے- اسکے خسر نے اسکے روحانی پیشوا شیخ احسانی کے ساتھ قیامت کے مسئلہ پر مناظرہ کرتے ہوۓ اسے کافر قرار دیا اور قزوین سے نکال دیا تھا جب قرتہ العین طاہرہ سید علی محمد باب کے اٹھارہ حروف حی میں شامل ہوئی تو اسکے خسر نے نہ صرف باب پر لعنت بھیجی بلکہ طاہرہ کے ساتھ بھی تلخ رویہ اختیارکرتے ہوۓ کہا ۔

بهائیت آن گونه که هست

Baha'i Software for Mobile Phones in Persian
So many Baha'i E-books

شامل :
نيمهِ‌ شعبان، عيد اميد : او مي‌آيد...‌ ، انقلاب‌ اسلامي‌ ايران؛
وامدار الطاف‌ الهي : ما منّت‌ از ولي‌عصرعج مي‌كشيم‌ ،
بهائيت و روس‌ تزاري‌ : بحثي در مناسبات حسينعلي‌ بهاء و روسيه‌ ، پيوند ديرپا با استعمار تزاري‌ ، تشكر بهاء از تزار و سفير روسيه‌ ، واكاوي مناسبات روس تزاري و بهائيت‌ ، ماه عسل در عشق‌آباد ، بها، و تحت‌ الحمايگي‌ روسيه‌ ، پرده‌اي از مناسبات بهائيت‌ و عثماني ، نامه‌اي كه به سرقت رفت! ، باقر اوف؛ بهائي‌ و «روس‌فيل» ، خوابي كه تعبير نشد! ، همكاري‌ بهائيان‌ با تشكيلات‌ (سياسي‌ و اقتصادي) روسيه‌ در ايران ، مغازله با همسايه شمالي ، چرا كتاب‌ «كشف‌ الغطاء» را جمع‌ كردند؟!‌ ،
بهائيت‌ و انگليس‌ : ارتباط‌ بهائيت‌ با استعمار تزاري ، عباس‌ افندي؛ تغيير قبله‌ از روس‌ به‌ لندن‌ ، حمايت‌ عبدالبها از بريتانيا در جنگ‌ جهاني‌ اول‌ ، چتر عنايت‌ لندن‌ بر سر پيشوا ، پاداش‌ خدمت‌ به‌ امپراتوري‌ ، راز اعطاي‌ نشان ، اعطاي نشان، ننگي‌ براي‌ عبدالبها در تاريخ‌ ، حمايتها ادامه‌ دارد! ، سابقه ارتباط‌ و طمع‌ انگليس‌ به‌ بهائيان‌ ، حمايت‌ انگليس‌ در طول‌ قرن‌ 20 از بهائيان ، مناسبات‌ مانكجي‌ هاتريا با بها‌ئيان‌ ، دوستان‌ «انگلو ـ صهيون» ، همكاري‌ با مؤ‌سسات انگليس‌ در ايران‌ ،
بهائيت‌ و امريكا : سومين دولت استعماري ، پيوند ديرين با امريكا ، بهائيت،پيشگام در ترويج فرهنگ امريكايي در ايران‌ ، دستيار جناب ويلسون‌ ، اردشيرجي‌، ميراث‌دار مانكجي در ايران‌ ، تعامل با ميسيون‌هاي تبشيري ، حمايت امريكا از بهائيه ، روابط با سيا و کاخ سفيد ،
بهاییت و اسراییل : دادگاههاي‌ اسرائيل پشتيبان‌ شوقي‌ افندي‌ ، ديدار با مسئولان‌ تراز‌ اول‌ اسرائيل ، بهائيت‌ و صهيونيسم‌ ، حضور در انجمنهاي‌ ماسوني‌ و شبه‌ ماسوني‌ ، شادي از پيروزي تل آويو ،
موج‌ بيداري‌ اسلامي، و افول‌ فرقه‌ ضاله : لوطي‌ نباخته!‌ ،
بهائيت‌ و رژيم‌ پهلوي: اظهار عبوديت و جان‌نثاري! ، امپرياليسم خبري و بهائيت‌ ، کرنش به‌ ديکتاتوري! ، کاش همه بهائي مي‌شدند! ،
آيت‌الله‌ بروجردي‌ و بهائيان‌ : نگران از نفوذ! ،
اميرکبير در مقابله باب و بهاء! : نقش‌ بي‌بديل‌ امير در سرکوب‌ بابيت ، اميرکبير، آماج‌ کينه‌‌ بهائيان‌ ، گواهي‌ تاريخ، اما نه‌ اين‌ است! ،
عجز علي‌محمد شيرازي از پاسخگويي‌ به‌ سؤ‌ال‌ علماي‌ اصفهان‌ : باب و چالش‌هاي پيش رو ، پاسخ‌ ربطي‌ به‌ سؤ‌ال‌ نداشت!‌ ،
بحثي در توبه نامه علي‌ محمد باب‌ : تلوّن‌درعقيده، تغييردرادعا ، توبه ‌نامهِ‌ باب‌ ،
خاطرات‌ يک‌ نجات‌يافته‌ : فساد اخلاقي‌ در بهائيت‌ ، بي‌بند و باران‌ تشويق‌ هم‌ مي‌شوند! ، ارتباط‌ با علما ممنوع!‌ ، بگذار مردم‌ با موشک‌ باران‌ صدام‌ بميرند! ، يک‌ بسيجي، مرا آگاه کرد‌ ،
خاطرات حسين فلا‌ح : يک نجات‌يافته ديگر ، جرات ابراز ندارم‌ ، طواف سربازان اسرائيلي دور مقام اعلي و غیره


دریافت نرم افزار بهائیت آن گونه که هست

The Status of UHJ

Here's one of the Haifan Baha'i counselors speaking about the UHJ:

"We don't want to be like those people who want to see God with their own eyes, or hear His melody with their own ears, because we have been given the gift of being able to see through the eyes of the House of Justice and listen through the ears of the House of Justice." - Baha'i Counselor Rebeque Murphy

To hear this section of her talk go to: ...


Note that this idolatrous statement has not be reputed by the UHJ, it is the level of enthrallment to themselves that they now expect: unquestioning obedience.


Larry Rowe

New book on Bahaism in Urdu Language

Bhaiat Aur Iss Kay Moatikadaat
بہائیت اور اس کے معتقدات
Author/Translator: Nazeer Ahmed Bhatti
Price: $ 5.71
Format: Hard Cover, 288Pages, Weight: 425 gm
Product-Id: 1003291
Publisher: Quranic Arabic Forum
Publish date: Mar 1999

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About Susan Maneck

This is a Purely "Copy - Pasted" material. I found it interesting so posting here for my readers :

By Frank Johnson (Ex-Baha'i)

Presumptive, exaggerating, defensive and lying. Susan certainly has all the Baha'i traits she shares with Bahai Layli Miller-Muro who drafted and sneaked into law IMBRA which takes away men’s freedoms and rights (many many more similar Baha'i laws to come) and receives millions of taxpayer dollars and her Father Bahai Larry Miller who, like Susan, can’t type a paragraph without several lies in it.

Do you think if this article was talking about Muslims who converted to another phony “religion”, Scientology, she would spend 2 seconds talking about it? Of course not! She is a Bahai and her mission here is to downplay the many negative aspects of Bahaism and defend the “new” Bahais who were once part of a real religion, Islam, in the hopes of propagandizing her Baha'i Cult in order to get more followers.

They always have to get new followers since they lose converts as fast as they get new ones.

Susan says “I posted here to defend the right of Indonesian villagers to decide on their own religion” but what she means is “I posted here to defend the right of Indonesian villagers to decide on their own religion as long as that religion is the Bahai Cult. Otherwise I could give a damn.”

Of course you could just shorten it to “I posted here to try to brainwash you with Bahai Cult propaganda and lies so you will be more submissive during the takeover.”

As to why I am here? Because a Bahai woman crossed me? Details please Susan.

I am here because the more I read about the Bahai Cult, the more I realize what a fraud it is and how fascist it is, not only in the way it operates now but especially the way it plans to operate in the future. The Bahais thrive on propaganda and lies. Just look at Susan as an example. This cult has dreams of grandeur unparalleled by any bonafide religion. You don’t see Muslims or Christians pushing for a “New World Order” controlled by them. Bahais resemble Communists or Nazis more than they resemble any religion.

What drives the Bahais are the lust for power and money. The typical Bahai peon believes if Bahais are in control, mankind will be frolicking in meadows while doves fly overhead. The Bahai elite know better. They see power and money for themselves while the Bahai peons, like Susan, do their bidding while non-Bahais serve them!

Bahaism is a cancer and should be treated as such before it spreads. I’m here to warn people of this scourge because I saw how Bahais could easily sneak away American men’s freedoms and know that this is just the beginning of their “New World Order” with other Draconian laws and rules to come.

There are many ex-Bahais posting the truth on the internet. Those Indonesian villagers should read what they have to say before they are brainwashed into giving up their religious beliefs in order to join a fascist cult.


This was a comment posted by an Ex-Baha'i on a discussion related to some "31 poor indonesian muslims who were converted to Bahaism."

Below is the link of the article and the discussion.

This is a good "comment" that I wish to publish as a post in my blog

A Baha'i Cultist (Probably Susan Maneck) wrote :

Why are Muslims so afraid of Baha’i Faith?

Because it promotes the equal rights for men and women?
Because it supports a obligatory education for every children?
Because it promotes a sense of world unity by stating that the world is but one country and mankind it’s citizens?
Because it supports the need of a world auxiliary language?
Because it wants to abolish the extremes of richness and poverty?
Because it supports the end of all kinds of prejudices?

Answer by an Indonesian Muslim :

Huh? A lot of what you described is what Islam teaches.. oh wait.. Baha'i Faith is derived from true Islamic values.

“Because it promotes the equal rights for men and women?”

In Islam, men and women are equal before God. But there is recognition that there are differences amongst the sexes and both men and women have obligations toward each other.

“Because it supports a obligatory education for every children?”

In Islam, seeking knowledge is encouraged. There’s a famous saying during the times of Prophet Muhammad SAW where a man wanted to learn more about China and the Prophet SAW replied, “Then go to China”. Another saying: “”Seek knowledge from the cradle to the grave”" – Muhammad

“Because it promotes a sense of world unity by stating that the world is but one country and mankind it’s citizens?”

Two words: Muslim ummah. You won’t find solidarity or unity in another religion except in Islam. When Israel attacked a predominately Christian country of Lebanon, many of the Western countries took the side of Israel. When the US invaded Iraq, a lot of Muslims vehemently opposed US action.

“Because it supports the need of a world auxiliary language?”


“Because it wants to abolish the extremes of richness and poverty?”

One word: zakat. Let’s be realistic..there are always will be social-economic classes.

“Because it supports the end of all kinds of prejudices?”

“O people! Your God is one and your forefather (Adam) is one. An Arab is not better than a non-Arab and a non-Arab is not better than an Arab, and a red (i.e. white tinged with red) person is not better than a black person and a black person is not better than a red person, except in piety. ” – Prophet Muhammad SAW

~Tuan Indonesian-American Muslim

Baha'i Cartoons بهائیت در گذر زمان و تصویر

This cartoon shows the Baha'is plotting to kill the king of Iran.

There are many other cartoons on the
excellent Blog in persian :

The Babi Community of Iran

by NUR (Wahid Azal)

Whether by anecdotal rumor or in the literature, the Baha’i leadership and organization has over the years gone out of its way to deny agency as well as in numerous circumstances to deny the very existence of the Bayani community. The Bayanis, whom popular terminology has termed Azalis (a term which they take as a pejorative and thus a term of derision), are the remaining followers of the post-Islamic esoteric Twelver Shi’ite religion founded by Siyyid ‘Ali Muhammad Shirazi, the Essence of the Seven Letters, the Bab (d. 1850).

In 1849, a little under a year before his execution in Tabriz on July 8th 1850, the Bab had nominated the then nineteen year old Mirza Yahya Nuri Subh-i-Azal (d. 1912) to succeed him as his ‘mirror’ (mirat) and successor (janeshin). Among sundry other titles and epithets he had received from the Bab, Mirza Yahya Nuri has come to be known primarily as Subh-i-Azal, i.e. the Dawn or Morning of Pre-Eternity, given that the Bab held the years of his revelatory ministry to accord with the famous but cryptic Tradition of Ultimate Reality (hadith al-haqiqa), otherwise known as the hadith kumayl, i.e. the Zen-like (and possibly apocryphal) discussion said to have occurred between the first Shi’ite Imam ‘Ali ibn Abi Talib (d. 661) and Kumayl ibn Ziyad al-Nakhai (d. 701) regarding the nature of ultimate reality. The fifth theophanic sequence of this Tradition states, “A Light Illuminating from the Morning-Dawn of Pre-Eternity and shedding its traces upon the tablets of the Talismanic-Temples of Mono-Unitarian Unicity (nurun ashraqa min subh al-azal fa-yaluha ‘ala hayakil-t-tawhid atharihi).” Subh-i-Azal had appeared amongst the Babis in the fifth year of the Bab’s revelatory ministry, thus the epithet.

The Bab further sent numerous epistles and tablets to his nominated successor making ecstatic, proclamatory locutions about him, such as, “I am you and you are I (anta ana wa ana anta),” and in his longest testamentary document he made the pronouncement, “O Name of the Pre-Eternal [referring to Azal], I verily testify upon this that there is no other god but I the Dearly Precious, the Best Beloved, then I testify upon this that there is no other god but Thee the Protector, the Peerless!” It was the Baha’i patriarch ‘Abbas Effendi ‘Abdu’l-Baha (d. 1921) who first coined the term Azali as a sectarian slur to cast the adherents of the Bayan as exclusive followers of Subh-i-Azal rather than as followers of the Bayan and Subh-i-Azal as the mirror and successor of the Bab. Unfortunately the term has since stuck in the popular consciousness, yet it is not the term its adherents have ever known themselves by.

In April 1912, almost sixty-three years after he had been nominated by the Bab, Subh-i-Azal died in exile in Larnaca, Cyprus, where he is now buried in a small, modest shrine. Although some Western language sources, including E.G. Browne (d. 1926), have stated that Hadi Dowlatabadi (1908-09?) had initially been nominated by Subh-i-Azal to succeed him - upon whose own death the succession is then held by these sources to have devolved upon his son Yahya Dawlatabadi (d. 1939) -, the fact of the matter is that there is absolutely no primary source documentation or any other evidence supporting this assertion. The unanimous position of the Bayani community today is that Subh-i-Azal left no will and testament; that therefore there was no successor; and so effectively the leadership of the Bayani community became henceforth a collective endeavor, a position foreseen by the Bab himself in the aforementioned will and testament.

The survival of the Bayani community in the face of often virulent hostility and persecution from both the majoritarian orthodox Shi’ite Islamic milieu of Iran as well as by the Baha’i organization is in itself a significant story demanding to be told. It is also an important case-study of non-traditional forms of (especially post-Islamic) Iranian esoteric spirituality to merit independent investigation on several fronts. Unfortunately the largely disorganized status of this community since the teens of the last century, coupled with its conspicuous lack of an organizational center and charismatic leadership; not to mention its consistent deployment of the discipline of the arcane (taqîya); together with the fact that the bulk of the present information and sources on the internal history of the Bayanis from 1912 to the present is in the form of anecdotal stories or unpublished memoirs and diaries in private hands; has made such an endeavour virtually impossible until pretty much now. The situation began to change in the early part of this decade with an internet list on yahoogroups and then entered a new phase in late 2004/early 2005 with the launching of the website

With the public re-emergence of the Bayani community we are now in a postion to employ both narrative as well as the methodologies of the social sciences to begin seriously examining both the wider historical as well as the wider sociological position of the Bayani community of Iran and its contribution(s) to the greater modern Iranian polity in its social and historical trajectories. The historians Mangol Bayat and Janet Afary in the ‘80s and ‘90s respectively have already done some preliminary contextualization to that end, especially in regard to those Bayanis prominently involved politically in the Constitutional Revolution; but the real meat, as it were, still remains to be written. One significant aspect which requires careful exploration is the impact Bayani intellectuals had on the modern study of Persian literature, since this area was pioneered by luminaries such as Allameh Mohammad Qazvini (d. 1949), a lifelong Bayani who co-authored the lengthy introduction to the Leiden edition of Hajji Mirza Jani Kashani's (d. 1852) kitab-i-nuqtat'ul-kaf with E.G. Browne, and Ali-Akbar Dehkhoda (d. 1959), the author of the monumental, multi-volume loghat-nameh encyclopedia, who is rumored to have been one. On other fronts we have feminists and democratic liberals such as Sadiqah Dowlatabadi, who herself and whose whole family remained dedicated, lifelong Bayanis, not to mention the prime minister Mohammad-Ali Forughi (d. 1943). In the best tradition of Tahirih Qurrat'ul-'Ayn (d. 1852), i.e. the Bab's seventeenth Letter of the Living and the famous remover of the veil, it will be recalled that the Sorbonne educated Sadiqah Dawlatabadi was the first modern Iranian woman who appeared unveiled in the streets of Tehran in 1927 dressed in European attire. In her last will and testament she declares, "I will never forgive any woman who visits my grave veiled" (quoted by Janet Afary in The Iranian Constitutional Revolution, 1905-1911, New York, 1997, p.187).

Indeed the position of the Bayani community in the movement for democratic freedoms, change and reform in Iran is a long, well-documented but tortuous one. The veritable founding fathers of the Constitutional Revolution, Shaykh Ahmad Ruhi (d. 1896) and Mirza Aqa Khan Kirmani (d. 1896), were both sons-in-law of Subh-i-Azal and the joint authors of a Bayani apologetic text entitled Hasht Behesht (8 Heavens), which was edited by E.G. Browne. Although considered a Shi’ite source of emulation (marja’ taqlid) and not a Bayani per se, nevertheless Mirza Hasan Shirazi whose fatwa trigerred the tobacco rebellion of 1890-91 against Nasiruddin Shah's (d. 1896) foreign concession was a cousin of the Bab’s and could very well have been somewhat influenced by the Bab and the ideas behind the religion he founded. It should be noted that on flimsy and rather contrived evidence, the Baha’is have actually gone to outright claim Mirza-ye Shirazi as one of their own. Be that as it may, let us here also mention the constitutionalists Va’ez Kirmani, Shaykh Ahmad Majd al-Islam Kirmani, Mirza Jahangir Khan Shirazi and Malik’u-Motakalemin who were all lifelong Bayanis.

To conclude this maiden post to my blog, I ask the unbiased reader to now consider the photograph I have posted along with this post: a photograph taken in the late 1930s/early 1940s of a group of Iranian Bayanis gathered in assembly presumably in Tehran during the very period that Western Baha’i sources, and especially the Baha’i patriarch Shoghi Effendi Rabbani (d. 1957), were claiming in the West and the East that no ‘Babis’ (meaning Bayanis/Azalis) any longer existed in the world and that all Babis had become Baha’is! This photograph demonstrates for posterity the tout court falsity of that position.

Baha'u'llah was god incarnate????

Mirza Husayn Ali (alias Baha'u'llah) was so out to lunch he actually believed, as did some of his followers, that he was god incarnate:

It was perhaps owing to this inadequacy that, at one stage during the ministry of Bahá'u'lláh, there were two major schools of thought among the believers concerning His station. Some believed Him to be the Supreme Manifestation of God, while others went further than this. When Bahá'u'lláh was asked about His station, He confirmed that as long as individuals were sincere in their beliefs, both views were right, but if they argued among themselves or tried to convert each other, both were wrong. This indicates that man because of his finite mind will never be able to understand the true station of the Manifestation of God. The criteria are sincerity and faith. Knowing man's limitations, God accepts from him what he is able to achieve.

(Adib Taherzadeh, The Revelation of Baha'u'llah v 1, p. 303)

Thankfully they have medication today to help those that begin to
believe they are god incarnate ;^).


Larry Rowe

Baha'i writings on covenant breakers

Mona Tahiri
by Mona Tahiri

Baha'u'llah Says :
"Protect yourselves with utmost vigilance, lest you be entrapped in the snare of deception and fraud." This is the advice of the Pen of Destiny."Therefore, to avoid these people will be the nearest path by which to attain the divine good pleasure; because their breath is infectious, like unto poison.""Endeavor to your utmost to protect yourselves, because Satan appears in different robes and appeals to everyone according to each person's own way, until he becomes like unto him -- then he will leave him alone."
"...If you detect in any man the least perceptible breath of violation, shun him and keep away from him." Then He says: "Verily, they are manifestations of Satan."
(Bahá'í World Faith, p. 431)

Abdol Baha Says :

Bahá'u'lláh, in all the Tablets and Epistles, forbade the true and firm friends from associating and meeting the violators of the Covenant of His Holiness, the Báb, saying that no one should go near them because their breath is like the poison of the snake that kills instantly.
(Bahá'í World Faith, p. 430)

And now, one of the greatest and most fundamental principles of the Cause of God is to shun and avoid entirely the Covenant-breakers, for they will utterly destroy the Cause of God, exterminate His Law and render of no account all efforts exerted in the past.
(Bahá'í World Faith, p. 448)

My object is to show that the Hands of the Cause of God must be ever watchful and so soon as they find anyone beginning to oppose and protest against the guardian of the Cause of God, cast him out from the congregation of the people of Bahá and in no wise accept any excuse from him. How often hath grievous error been disguised in the garb of truth, that it might sow the seeds of doubt in the hearts of men!
(Will and Testament of Abdu'l-Bahá, p. 12)

New Book about Bahaism in Arabic

A new Book in Arabic has been published by
Dar Ghareeb for Printing, Publishing and Distribution, Egypt.

البابية والبهائية دعاة إنسانية أم عبادة ماسونية ؟
Does Babism and Bahaism advocates Humanity or worship Freemasonry?

Authored by : Dr. Said Abu Esaad

Parents Be Aware of “Baha’i cup of Tea” for Your Children

by Ravian Bilani

Following 15-day jail terms handed down to two Baha'is in Tashkent, one of the two, Timur Chekparbayev, who was subsequently expelled from Uzbekistan. The authorities accused the two of missionary activity and proselytism, following a police raid on a meeting for teenage Children.

Chekparbayev stated that these were not conversion meetings with young children and Jr. Youth but it was just to drink a cup of tea together. In response. Akram Nematov of the Justice Ministry told Forum 18 that "They can drink tea – that's not forbidden, but they must inform the Department when they HOLD RELIGIOUS EDUCATION WITH YOUNG PEOPLE."

It is clear that Mr. Chekparbaev arrived in Uzbekistan with the aim of propagating Baha’i Faith in the country, drawing on the support of generous donations from sponsors. By the way, the headquarters of the Baha’is operate in the open in Israel. Certain elements from that country find it very useful to use the Baha’i community to shatter the unity of the Muslim ranks, since the Jews see Islam as the main opponent of Judaism. It is also interesting that in the dawn of Baha’ism, Russia offered asylum to one of the leaders of this persecuted religion. And in Ashkhabad [Turkmenistan], one of the Baha’i communities was built.

Timur Chekparbayev carried out missionary and proselytizing activity without having the consent of the Uzbekistani authorities and the consent of the parents, it was in clear violation of the Uzbekistani law, and the rules governing stays in the country.

On the 24th of July of this year, Mr. Chekparbaev was arrested and sent to the court for holding yet another “meeting” in house 36 on Bayikurganska Street in the Khamzin region of Tashkent. The regional court gave him a rather lenient sentence: 15 days in prison followed by an expulsion from the country without a right to return.

Chekparbaev couldn’t carry out his proselytizing activity because Baha’i isn’t recognized as a religion by the world community. Therefore, this ideological sabotage had very clear goals that are connected to increasing the geo-political influence of Israel, and sowing confusion in the minds of millions of Uzbekistani citizens. It seems that such a decisive step taken by Mr. Akram Nematov will defiantly stop this sort of deceptive proselytizes activity aimed at destroying the unity and moral fabrics of Uzbekistan. It will also serve as a warning to all those who wish to test their luck based on the questionable field of false prophets.

The decision taken by Uzbekistani authorities should be an eye opener for the CIS Countries to counter the moral damage inflicted on the fragile souls on young people (by the way, Mr. Chekparbaev’s so-called flock included minors!).A constant vigil at this deceptive and Zionist created false and fabricated religion is the need of the time.

This is Zionism attempt of transferring the work of false prophet Baha’u’llah from their country to Muslim countries and take vital information of CIS and Middle East countries.

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Узбекистан: В Ташкенте пресечена «идеологическая диверсия» - выдворен казахский проповедник-бахаист

Хамзинский районный суд города Ташкента выдворил из столицы Узбекистана без права въезда гражданина Казахстана, 36-летнего Тимура Чекпарбаева. Такая участь постигла казахского гостя за активную пропаганду идей религиозной общины «Бахаи», со ссылкой на решение суда сообщают местные Интернет-СМИ.

«Со стороны кажется странным, как иностранец сумел за короткий срок сколотить серьезную религиозную общину, в которую вошли молодые люди не только из Ташкента, но и Джизакской, Бухарской областей Узбекистана», - пишет автор статьи на веб-сайте, курируемом Службой национальной безопасности Узбекистана. – «Однако в Узбекистане «миссия» проповедника идей религиозной общины «Бахаи» оказалась короткой. 24 июля сего года за проведение своего очередного «схода» в доме 36 по улице Байкурганской, что в Хамзинском районе Ташкента, господин Чекпарбаев был задержан и передан в руки правосудия».

Решением Хамзинского районного суда он был приговорен к 15-суточному аресту и депортации из Узбекистана без права повторного въезда.

«В принципе, у Чекпарбаева не было возможности официально вести миссионерскую деятельность ввиду того, что сама бахаи так и не признана мировым сообществом в качестве самостоятельной и официальной религии», - сообщает автор статьи. – «Таким образом, у этой идеологической диверсии имелись вполне четкие и ясные цели, связанные с усилением геополитического влияния Ирана, внесения смятения в души миллионов жителей Узбекистана. А морального урона, нанесенного неокрепшим душам молодым людей (кстати, среди так называемой паствы господина Чекпарбаева были и несовершеннолетние дети!) не восстановить так легко».

Open Letter to Ali Reza Maybodi

Dear Mr Maybodi,

I am writing in reference to one of your recent segments in order to express my disgust at your declining journalistic standards and contempt regarding your shameless public cheerleading on behalf of the Haifan Baha'i organization. It appears that you have sold out any integrity you once possessed upon the altar of the highest bidder: a situation that, alas, plagues many of your other colleagues in Tehrangeles as well, nay the entire Iranian emigre media establishment of North America as a whole - an establishment increasingly fixated on the most shallow and banal surface appearances which mirror the worst aspects of North American popular culture. It is people like yourself who again and again have given the lie away to the mullahs throughout these past 30 years thereby discrediting an opposition movement who could have potentially dispatched the infernal regime of the Khomeinist Islamic republic long ago. And the reason for this is because of a basic lack of integrity coupled with myopic greed and the cynical politicking that has become the veritable sickness of an entire generation of Iranians like yourself who are daily compromising any and all values whilst slowly being culturally lobotomized by the cancer eating away at all genuine Iranianity: that disease which is the soulless, Western and modernist reign of quantity over quality with its complete lack of all standards and total disregard of truth over the sound bite.

Now you may ask why I am so incensed at a segment aired by you that otherwise has received appalause and accolades, and my answer is this: you have blindly and uncritically repeated sectarian propaganda and complete historical fiction. But before I detail what these are, allow me to say a few words about myself to give you some context as to where I am coming from. I am a Bayani, what popular diction has labeled Azali, and I am proudly a former Baha'i who does not mince his words or pull his punches regarding this organization and creed. I was born into Baha'ism and on my maternal side they count six-generations of Baha'i adherents. My (estranged) extended family still remain adherents to this creed; which as far as I am concerned is not a religion at all, but a political movement and an NRM cult masquerading as one. I draw your attention to the following blog by myself which includes a compilation of factual information I have gathered that casts Baha'ism in a far less favourable light than what you have attempted to cast it in:

I also draw your attention to one of my own blogs, that includes some personal information about myself:

That stated, in your segment you claim that the Baha'i holy land is Iran. While this might be an attempt on your part to inordinately flatter your Baha'i audience and benefactors, it is in fact unfactual and incorrect. The Baha'i holy land is not Iran. It is Israel / Palestine. The reason why you might be under this erroneous impression that Iran is the Baha'i holy land is because of the possible misrepresentations made to you regarding the connection of Baha'ism with Babism (that is, the religion of the Bayan) -- a connection that in itself has been falsely appropriated by the Baha'is, but which in real historical terms is an outright lie and fabrication! Iran, and Shiraz specifically, is indeed the Bayani holy land. In fact Shiraz is scripturally considered to be the qibla by the people of the Bayan since it was there that the Essence of the Seven Letters, Siyyid 'Ali Muhammad Shirazi, the Bab (d. 1850), proclaimed his mission on May 23rd 1844 and revealed the first part of his commentary on the quranic Surah of Joseph (12), the Best of Stories (ahsan al-qissas).

Whether you are aware of the situation or not, Siyyid 'Ali Muhammad Shirazi, the Bab, before his death on July 8th 1850 appointed a successor in Mirza Yahya Nuri Subh-i-Azal (d. 1912). Until the mid-1860s the Baha'i founder and older brother of Subh-i-Azal, Mirza Husayn 'Ali Nuri Baha' (d. 1892), himself paid allegiance to the Bab's designated successor. But beginning in 1863 he decided to violently usurp the authority and succession invested in his younger brother and proclaim himself a new theophany or manifestation of God, thus founding Baha'ism. Now what happened next is something that if you are not aware of, you should be. As British orientalist E.G. Browne states in his annotated volume of A Travellers Narrative Written to Illustrate the Episode of the Bab, "All prominent supporters of Subh-i-Azal who withstood Mirza Husayn Ali's claims were marked out for death, and in Baghdad Mulla Rajab Ali "Kahir" and his brother, Hajji Mirza Ahmad, Hajji Mirza Muhammad Reza, and several others fell one by one to the knife or bullet of the assassin" p.359. "As to the assassination of the three Ezelis, Aka Jan Bey, Hajji Seyyed Muhammad of Isfahan, and Mirza Riza-Kulli of Tafrish, by some of Beha's followers at Acre, there can, I fear, be but little doubt...the passage in the Kitab-i-Aqdas alluding (apparently) to Hajji Seyyed Muhammad's death...proves Beha'u'llah regarded this event with some complaisance" p.370. On the murder of one Aqa Muhammad Ali of Isfahan in Istanbul (who first bore allegience to Husayn Ali and then went back to Azal) by one Mirza Abu'l-Qasim the Bakhtiyari, Browne quotes the words of Mirza Husayn Ali Nuri addressed to the latter, "O phlebotomist of the Divine Unity! Throb like the artery in the body of the Contingent World, and drink of the blood of the Block of Heedlessness for that he turned aside from the aspect of thy Lord the Merciful!"

I won't tire you with further details of what Bayanis know as the Direful Mischief (fitna-i-saylam). You can read any further details for yourself if you wish at and follow the links provided there. But what should be obvious by now, and a fact detailed by numerous Western and Iranian scholars alike, is that there is no direct, filial connection between Baha'ism and Babism/the religion of the Bayan, and that Baha'ism is largely a violent schism of the former. As such given this fact the claim that Iran then constitutes the Baha'i holy land becomes more than a little probelmatic, especially since the Baha'i qibla itself is claimed as being Bahji in Acre Israel/Palestine.

You also claimed at the beginning of your segment that Baha'is are Iran-lovers. Generally that might be true with individuals, but as far as the official ideology of the creed itself is considered that is categorically untrue. From a young age Baha'is are systematically encouraged (nay, brainwashed) to identify themselves as Baha'is before anything else. That means that all Baha'is define themselves as Baha'is first and whatever follows, be it Iranian or otherwise, only secondarily afterwards. In a situation such as this, whatever individuals themselves feel, I do not see the consistency of any statement posited that makes Baha'i tout court Iran-lovers. It makes a segment of the Iranian Baha'i community Iran-lovers, but not Baha'is as a whole because the ideology of the organization itself does not encourage it at all. Rather it frowns on it, and, furthemore, the Anglocentric tonality of this establishment's entrenched elite is conspicuously anti-Iranian. Also, and as a matter of course, the overt globalist ideology of Baha'ism mitigates precisely against specifically being an Iran-lover, whatever individual Baha'is might say, feel or do otherwise.

Next, throughout your segment you ridiculed and lampooned the notion of the British imperialist connections of Baha'ism, as if these are merely allegations without substance. I wonder what you make, then, of the following two declassfied British cabinet documents from the teens and twenties of the last century which demonstrates a direct connection (obtained from the British National Archives under UK freedom of information legislation):

Moreover, I wonder what you make of the following statement made in the Handbook of Palestine published by the British High Commission for Palestine itself in 1922 regarding the 1919 knighting of Abbas Effendi:

"...Sir 'Abbas Effendi 'Abdu'l Baha had travelled extensively in Europe and America to expound his doctrines, and on the 4th December, 1919, was created by King George V. a K.B.E. for valuable services rendered to the British Government in the early days of the Occupation....."

Certainly such facts and information are not merely wild conspiracy theories fabricated by the fertile minds, the mercurial and over-active imaginations of mullahs and Islamists. Rather these are the prima facie statements of the British government and establishment Itself.

I won't go any further into historical and interpretative distinctions about such issues. I am merely highlighting such information to point out that you either do not know what you are talking about, or that you have specifically been courted by the Baha'i establishment to make favourable statements in the media about them completely denuded and divorced from all contextual and historical reality whatsoever. In such a situation, lately, you are not alone. Yet being actively wined and dined by an organization does not mean that one must sacrifice ones objective (and in your case, journalistic) integrity completely. As a journalist - if that is what you are - you must be doubly vigilant and do your homework that much more intently. But here you haven't.

Finally, I wonder what you make of an organization who issues such directives as the one below:


A Document Prepared by the Universal House of Justice
January 29 2001

Protection of the Cause (pp. 15-16)

Although deepening the friends' understanding of the Covenant and increasing their love and loyalty to it are of paramount importance, the duties of the Auxiliary Board members for Protection do not end here. The Board members must remain ever vigilant, monitoring the actions of those who, driven by the promptings of ego, seek to sow the seeds of doubt in the minds of the friends and undermine the Faith. In general, whenever believers become aware of such problems, they should immediately contact whatever institution they feel moved to turn to, whether it be a Counsellor, an Auxiliary Board member, the National Spiritual Assembly or their own Local Assembly. It then becomes the duty of that institution to ensure that the report is fed into the correct channels and that all the other institutions affected are promptly informed. Not infrequently, the responsibility will fall on an Auxiliary Board member, in coordination with the Assembly concerned, to take some form of action in response to the situation. This involvement will include counselling the believer in question; warning him, if necessary, of the consequences of his actions; and bringing to the attention of the Counsellors the gravity of the situation, which may call for their intervention. Naturally, the Board member has to exert every effort to counteract the schemes and arrest the spread of the influence of those few who, despite attempts to guide them, eventually break the Covenant.

The need to protect the Faith from the attacks of its enemies may not be generally appreciated by the friends, particularly in places where attacks have been infrequent. However, it is certain that such opposition will increase, become concerted, and eventually universal. The writings clearly foreshadow not only an intensification of them machinations of internal enemies, but a rise in the hostility and opposition of its external enemies, whether religious or secular, as the Cause pursues its onward march towards ultimate victory. Therefore, in the light of the warnings of the Guardian, the Auxiliary Boards for Protection should keep "constantly" a "watchful eye" on those "who are known to be enemies, or to have been put out of the Faith", discreetly investigate their activities, alert intelligently the friends to the opposition inevitably to come, explain how each crisis in God's Faith has always proved to be a blessing in disguise, and prepare them for the "dire contest which is destined to range the Army of Light against the forces of darkness.

I don't know where you come from, but in my world such words as the words above are the words of the worst sort of fascists and totalitarian monsters.

I bid you farewell.

Wahid Azal
Queensland, Australia
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