What is the real number of Baha'is?

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Baha'i 'Yaran' comes back again!

5 out of 7 Released! So called 'Yaran' of Baha'is were prosecuted for taking part in illegal activities in their homeland.

The seven Baha’i leaders were arrested in early 2008. The most serious charges against them were espionage, propaganda against the regime and founding an illegal organization.

(Freed Baha’i Leader: Jailing Baha’is is Futile and Pointless, IranWire)

From what I understand, the charges include:

(A) Espionage. Sending information to the Universal House of Justice.

(B) Propaganda against the regime. Proselytizing (i.e. attempting to convert) Muslims, which subverts the Islamic theocracy and promotes the Baha'i theocracy.

(C) Founding an illegal organization. That is, the Yaran, which apart from its name and number of members, is identical to a National Spiritual Assembly.

Now, here's what I don't understand:

(D) Since the Baha'i Writings unequivocally demand obedience to one's government to the extent and not including the renunciation of one's faith, why are Baha'is being hypocritical? How are these people considered martyrs? Shouldn't they be rebuked for willfully violating the law of the land?

(E) Let's suppose that I completely misunderstood the Baha'i concept of obedience to one's government. Let's suppose that Baha'is have the right to violate the law of the land if it contravenes their freedom of religion. Why aren't Baha'is being honest about it? Why don't Baha'is admit that they are willfully violating the law of the land because it prevents them from practicing their religion? Why claim that you were arrested for merely being a Baha'i? To garner sympathy?

Something doesn't add up.

Source : https://www.reddit.com/r/exbahai/comments/7ys7i0/the_yaran/

Video : What is the difference between Baha'i Faith and Ahmadiyya Movement?

Baha'is engage in deceptive advertising in Florida

This radio station advertisement signage says nothing naming Baha'i... it just tries to get unsuspecting people to enter a trap. This remind me of Jehovah's Witnesses in regards to the extent that they proselytize and value proselytizing people instead of helping people, except that they are less deceptive than Baha'is.

Baha'is asking money from non-Baha'is to establish 'World Peace'!

By Dale Husband

 
Look at this web page:

http://www.bahaichair.umd.edu/giving

When I was a Baha'i, I was taught that Baha'i institutions never accepted funds from non-Baha'is, but it seems this one can do so. What the hell would they need the donations for, since they are affiliated with a UNIVERSITY? I smell a rat here, a dead one!

Baha'i is a cult? Yes 100%

Hello, everyone :) Last night I did a websearch for "warning signs of a cult". It might sound weird to hear me say that, since I've been pretty firm in calling Baha'ism a cult before--but I'd never actually put a number to it before. I just assumed it would be a lot of checks on any cult checklist. I was right. Let's examine it together, okay? (And the checklist I'll be using is from here. It's the most comprehensive.)

do they claim to have a special corner on the truth, something no other groups has?

Definitely. That's the whole point of Baha'ism. Check!

are you told to not question what is being taught, as the leadership are godly, honest, have divine authority and you must trust them?

Infallible Universal House of Justice who will eventually rule the world (no girls allowed for at least one thousand years). Check!

are you discouraged from asking questions as to why members have left, and expected to accept the reasons the group leadership gives you?

They left Baha'ism because they're cancerous, poisonous haters of Light, duh. Now stop asking why. Don't let your children associate with their children. Don't talk to them. And donate some more to the Fund. Check!

do they put down other churches, groups, etc, while pointing out their faults and errors to build themselves up? do they use peoples faults and sins as examples of what to do and what not to do?

Baha'is talk endlessly about the faults and shortcomings of other religions. That is the point of Baha'ism--that Baha'u'llah was the best and most recent, and if you're satisfied with outdated beliefs you're not spiritually mature. Check!

are you made to feel your failures, as though your performance is not up to par to their righteous standards?

Yes, if you're one of the Untouchables of the Baha'is: transsexuals, homosexuals, bisexuals, etc. Little Baha'i children are taught that if they're not straight, they just need to pray really hard and God will change them. They're taught LGBT are sick and diseased—so pray harder!!!!!
Natural variation in personality is treated like a personal and spiritual failing. Check!

do they recommend for you to be around their people, expecting you to attend all group activities? if you do not, are you are questioned about your spirituality or dedication?

Why aren't you at Ruhi? Have you done Ruhi? We have a Fireside. And a Feast. And a Holy Day. How about some Ruhi? Have you finished Ruhi? You did? Don't worry, there's more Ruhi! RUHI! Check!

do they stop you from reading anything negative about themselves?

LOL! Checkity-check!

do they call those who fall away enemies, dogs, or cancer, even using examples from the Bible or other such materials?

Cancerous, poisonous snakes, etc. and haters of light and goodness. Critics of Baha'ism are depicted as moustache twirling villains out of a Star Wars film like the evil Emperor. Check!

do they place and emphasis on evil and the devil, declaring that the world outside is a threat to the group?

The world is hopelessly decadent, violent and corrupt according to Baha'i thought. It's also doomed without Baha'ism, apparently. Check!

do they defend themselves in every area?

Yep! Baha'ists become downright hysterical when presented with evenhanded criticism. It has taken quite a while to eke out this small corner of the internet for exB's, and it's still continually monitored and pestered by strident cultists. Check!

do they give importance to a spiritual goal, such as enlightenment, godliness, salvation, that has no real tangible way of being measured?

Yeah. Baha'u'llah uses a metaphor to compare basic humans to dirty coal which eventually turns into diamond with 'spiritual maturity' and other meaningless buzzwords that have no concrete metric. You're just supposed to become better and better as a Baha'i and make new Baha'is, but what does 'better' mean? It sure doesn't mean charity. It seems to mean attending Baha'i events and donating a lot of money to the NSA. Check!

do they operate in humility, or seem arrogant, and make demands on you to obey, using such statements such as “real believers obey without question or if you really were a devoted follower you would do such and such"?

If you were a real believer, you wouldn't doubt the Blessed Beauty. That's just spiritual cancer eating at you. Do some Deepenings. Recite the Most Blessed Name ninety-nine times. We can't possibly understand all of Baha'u'llah's reasons for His commands, but it's our job to obey. You'd have Faith. Check!

So let's count it up...

12/12.

Yep, it's a cult. If you ever have any doubts ever again, just refresh yourself with the checklist, then shake your head in amazement and feel happy you're on the outside. And if you're reading this and you're on the inside, know that other people have left and we're doing great. You can leave, too.

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Azalis accepting the Baha'i Faith in numbers !!!! 😉

An Azali professor was teaching a class on Mirza Yahya Nuri, a known Covenant-Breaker.

“Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship Subh-i-Azal and accept that he was the true successor of the Bab, greater than even Baha’u’llah!”

At this moment, a brave, faithful Baha’i who had given $300,000 in Huququ’llah payments and read the Kitab-i-Iqan over a hundred times and understood the urgent need for Baha’u’llah’s World Order and supported every ruling made by the Universal House of Justice stood up.

“How many years did the Bab say it would take Him Whom God shall make manifest to arrive?”

The arrogant professor smirked quite Azalishly and smugly replied “At least 1511 years, you stupid Baha’ist.”

“Wrong. It was 19 years. If it was 1511 and Subh-i-Azal, as you say, was correct, then Baha’u’llah shouldn’t have so many followers.”

Subh-i-Azal

The professor was visibly shaken and dropped his chalk and copy of Mustayqiz. He stormed out of the room crying those poisonous Covenant-Breaker tears. The same tears Azalis cry for the “oppressed Bayanis” (punishment for not accepting the Manifestation of Baha’u’llah). There is no doubt that at this point our professor, Abd al-Azal, wished he had accepted the message of Baha’u’llah and become more than a Covenant-Breaking hater of light. He wished so much that he could join the People of Baha, but he had been declared a Covenant-Breaker!

The students applauded, and all declared as Baha’is that day and accepted Baha’u’llah as the latest Manifestation of God. A dove named “Independent Investigation of Truth” flew into the room and perched atop a symbol of the Most Great Name and shed a tear on the chalk. The Kitab-i-Badi was read several times and Baha’u’llah himself showed up to enact the Most Great Peace.

The professor lost his tenure and was fired the next day. He was shunned by all seven billion Baha’is in the world and starved to death.

Allahu-Abha

Source : https://www.reddit.com/r/exbahai/comments/7t9jab/an_azali_professor_was_teaching_a_class_on_mirza/

OH, STOP IT YOU.

This is the age of woman... She should enjoy the same privilege BUT membership on the Universal House of Justice is confined to men!

World's greatest hypocrite
'Abdu'l Baha

"This is the age of woman. She should receive the same education as her brother and enjoy the same privilege; for all souls are equal before God." 'Abdu’l-Bahá

"The woman has greater moral courage than the man; she has also special gifts which enable her to govern in moments of danger and crisis." 'Abdu’l-Bahá

"So it will come to pass that when women participate fully and equally in the affairs of the world, when they enter confidently and capably the great arena of laws and politics, war will cease." 'Abdu’l-Bahá

"Therefore, as woman advances toward the degree of man in power and privilege, with the right of vote and control in human government, most assuredly war will cease; for woman is naturally the most devoted and staunch advocate of international peace." ‘Abdu’l‑Bahá

"In some respects woman is superior to man. She is more tender-hearted, more receptive, her intuition is more intense." ‘Abdu’l‑Bahá

"Know thou, O handmaid, that in the sight of Bahá, women are accounted the same as men, and God hath created all humankind in His own image, and after His own likeness. That is, men and women alike are the revealers of His names and attributes, and from the spiritual viewpoint there is no difference between them. Whosoever draweth nearer to God, that one is the most favored, whether man or woman. How many a handmaid, ardent and devoted, hath, within the sheltering shade of Bahá, proved superior to the men, and surpassed the famous of the earth." ‘Abdu’l‑Bahá

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