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| Abdul Baha (Son of Baha'u'llah) was one of the leader of Baha'i Cult |
1. How new members are found
Dangerous Cults: With many cults, you don't get to know what you are getting into until after you have made a commitment
Baha'i Faith: There are secrets but these secrets are not known to the poor, innocent, newly converted Baha'is. Does the common baha'i know that the Baha'i Elections are fully controlled by the "All Male, Supreme, All Infallibale, Haifan Organization"? Do they know that these are not spiritual but highly fraud and controlled? there are many secrets and are available on the internet. Search on google for "Pakistan Baha'i Election Fraud", "Baha'i Control on their Electoral System", "Baha'i Election fraud in India".
2. How funding is obtained.
Dangerous Cults: Commercial operations and/or mandatory donations (often large percentages) by members.
Baha'i Faith: Has commercial businesses, businesses associations, huge property investments, heavy bank deposits. They collect money from poor Africans, Indians, Burmese, Nepalis, Pakistanis in the name of Community Banking and then use these funds for proselytizing. Also auctions are held of different used Clothings of Baha'i Leaders for fund raising. If they know about you have money, they (Especially Iranian Baha'is) will start motivating you to give the HUQUQULLAH, which is then transferred to UHJ in Haifa and it is then used to maintain Huge Gardens on Mount Carmel. Ask the Baha'is what they have done for the destitute of Congo and Sudan? Some of the fund is used for Pioneering purpose and it is allocated by the Counselors to its own people, sometimes exceeding 15000 US$ a year. There are huge financial scams in the Baha'i community. Just google to learn more, Search for Baha'i financial scams in Dubai, India, Italy, Pakistan, Africa, Iran etc.
Recently a Saree (cultural dress worn by women in India) of Ruhiyyih Maxwell was auctioned to raise funds for Baha'i activities.
3. Charismatic central figure.
Dangerous Cults: Cults usually have a central living figure who often lives on income from adherents.
Baha'i Faith : "Baha'i Say: There is no clergy, paid or unpaid" Totally false!
There are no clergies but there are Counselors and ABMs. The ABMs are religious Police just like the one in IRAN and the Counselors are purely MULLAHs. They are those conducting difficult and important lectures on the subjects such as Covenant, Huququllah, Covenant Breaking, Baha'i Elections, Ruhi 8 etc. These are Baha'i MULLAHs and everybody is supposed to OBEY them without any questioning. You cannot be critical of them. Otherwise you are considered Critical of UHJ, the Supreme Baha'i Body. These Counselors and ABMs are mostly paid huge amounts for their services. These amounts are called as "Living Assistance". Even the International Counselors are House of Justice members are paid huge amounts collected from the poors in the name of Huququllah.
4. Investigation of truth
Dangerous Cults: Members are often told that it is dangerous to investigate other religions.
Baha'i Say: Baha'is are encouraged to investigate all religions, and to appreciate truth no matter where it is found. Totally Wrong.
Baha'is are strictly not allowed to read the material of other Baha'i Sects. They are told to immediately delete all the emails received by the "Critics" or Baha'is of other denominations. Immediately handover the 'UNREAD' material received by other sects to the Baha'i Mullas (Counselors). As this can damage their so called weak 'covenant'.
5. Behavior control, as defined by Hassan. *
Dangerous Cults: Persons may be told where to live, what to wear, or what (and how much) to eat. Sleep and freedom to travel or move about may be limited
Baha'i Faith: Many Baha'is are Alcoholic (although officially it is prohibited). Shoghi Effendi prohibited the Baha'is from keeping long hairs. There is no freedom of travel. Every now and then guidelines (or Orders?) are issued to the Baha'i from their infallible supreme body. Behavior is fully controlled by the Supreme Baha'i Administrative Bodies. Once Baha'i Administration declares any fellow as a "Covenant Breaker" then other Baha'is are supposed to totally boycott / shun him even if he be your brother.
The advice of UHJ to Baha'is
"There is no excuse for believers continuing to associate with ... and those who, knowing everything, still insist on doing so, should be shunned by their fellow-Bahá'ís. The same applies to people who have left the Cause and associate with ..."
6. Thought control as defined by Hassan. *
Dangerous Cults: There is often use of "thought-stopping" techniques such as chanting or speaking in tongues for long periods of time, setting up a type of hypnotic atmosphere
Baha'i Faith: The "Ruhi Institute" is specially meant to brainwash the newly converted. Read Ruhi Book 6 and 7 and learn yourself. And hypocrisy is the second name of Baha'i faith. See this
7. Emotional control, as defined by Hassan. *
Dangerous Cults: Guilt and fear are often used to control members, including alternating praise and public humiliation or forced confession, and indoctrination against leaving the group. *
Baha'i Faith: Exactly same here, Guilt and fear are often used to control members, including alternating praise and public humiliation (if you are critical of this cult) or forced confession, and indoctrination (Shunning) against leaving the group. Small mistakes are fined with the taking of "Voting / Administrative Rights"
8. What happens when people leave the religion
Dangerous Cults: People who leave cults are often considered to be dangerous and are usually shunned
Baha'i Faith: Exactly Same with the Baha'i Cult. Search the Phrase "Non-association with Covenant-breakers" and read the teachings of Baha'u'llah, Abdul Baha and Shoghi Effendi.
"SO BAHA'I FAITH IS ACTUALLY A CULT" "THE MOST HYPOCRITICAL CULT THAT WANTS TO ESTABLISH A NEW WORLD ORDER." NOW WILL YOU SUPPORT IT OR OPPOSE IT?
* Steve Hassan is a Cult Expert
i agree with your definition of cults and its a cheating in the name of teaching. it is a paper faith and nothing beyond.
ReplyDeleteThis is very sad. You obviously have not read the Baha'i Writings for yourself, or talked with Baha'is. While I could reply to each and every one of your comments, I will only address a few. First, new Baha'is are encouraged to learn all they can about the Faith before they enrol, or as soon as possible afterwards. Although some Baha'is are concerned about talking about money, although I don't know why, we do not hide Huququ'llah or mislead people about it. It is not used to maintaining large gardens. You only need to see how the gardens are maintained to understand that it is done mostly by volunteers, and for far less money than most conventional gardens.
ReplyDeleteAs for the Counsellors and ABMs, we are not told to blindly obey them. They are not infallible. We are told to consider what they suggest, and then research it for ourselves. And they are not paid for their services. I am not sure where you heard that, or if you just made it up. They generally have to struggle between full-time careers and their services to the Faith. It is not easy, and many of them sacrifice a lot of time with their famillies for the short time that they are serving in that capacity. Oh, and they are only appointed for 5 years at a time, unlike Mullahs, who are for life.
As for alcoholism, I have met only a few who struggle with this. Most of us do not drink at all. Those who do are given as much support and help as possible to overcome this afflicting disease.
I truly hope that you will think about what you are writing, and stop posting what amounts to no more than slander. God be with you.
Dear Mead
DeleteGreetings to you
This is indeed sad. The Baha'is are making fool of innocent people and the so called super powers providing them unconditional support. There are very few people in the so called civilized western countries to speak openly against the Baha'i cult. It is a matter of concern. A horrible looking man claims himself to be the manifestation of God and people started believing in him. His son travels to Europe and converts some people deceptively and after a 100 years, there are same number of people in that land. There are so many such clever people who claim to be somebody and they get followers.
I have studied the Baha'i faith very carefully, the result of which is infront of your eyes. After reading this blog and reading the posts can any Baha'i (especially Persian one) say that I am unaware of what the Baha'i faith is. If you believe thatway then you are making fool of yourself.
I will reply to your comment. Please put more if you have and I will try to talk to you respectfully.
I have read many Baha'i books. I have many broadminded and fundamentalist Baha'i friends. The Broadminded are weak in 'Covenant' and the fundies are 'Strong in Covenant' as per the Baha'i beliefs.
Where did I say that the ABMs and Counselors are infallible? This fact is known to everybody that UHJ collectively is considered to be infallible, Which is really a stupid thing to believe. When the members of UHJ decide something alone then that is not considered to be infallible but when it is collective then it is infallible. It is like when a Monkey is alone then he is Monkey but when 'several' monkeys come together they become Human Being and these very monkeys then claim that their decision is 'inspired by God'. How can a sane person believe in this type of rubbish concepts?
Regarding the Counselors and ABMs, it is their duty to implement the Messages (Farameen) of UHJ and keep a watchful eye on the activities of their members. And if any member of this community thinks the other way then send a report to the ITC and UHJ and then await for their orders. Really this is very cultish. See what happened to Juan Cole, Fredrick Glaysher, Sen McGlinn.
You said they are not paid. May be this is partially true. Some Baha'i ABMs and Counselors may not be taking money but a Maximum of the ABMs and Counselors are paid. I will be putting the proof of this in my post in a few days of How much they are paid. Every pioneer, ABM and Counselor, even the ITC and UHJ members are the paid servant of the 'Cause'. I will prove that.
They do have to struggle for retain their married life. Many of the ITC members and Counselors live in other countries and their families live in some their countries. Their married life becomes a hell and many of the counselors are divorced or unmarried. I am going to write a blog on this also and soon you will see it here. Presently, I am studying the lives of various ABMs and Counselors.
Yes, I know they are appointed for 5 years only, but I know many ABMs and Counselors who are working in that capacity for 15 to 20 years continuously. Take Mr. Ian Semple, the UHJ member who was on that body for 42 years like Gaddafi. And these guys are no different then Mullas.
You have met only a few. But I have met many. It is only the Christian Background Baha'is, good westerners, good Asians who are somewhat clean. Most of the Iranian Baha'is I have met are Alcoholic, fundamentalists, Anti-other Religion, Dictating, Cultish and women dressing like whores, especially the persian ones.
I know what I am writing and God-Willing, I will write what is the fact and I will continue to pray to Almighty God to give wisdom to everybody, specially to those innocent people who got entrapped in this cult deceptively.
According to your criteria for cults, Christianity is also a cult. Examples: #8, what happens to people who leave the religion -- According to Christianity, people who leave their religion will burn in hell for all eternity. Wow! That goes along with the "guilt and fear" you mentioned in #7! I don't have time to go into this in more depth, but it is only fair to point out the obvious: that Christianity is the world's largest cult.
ReplyDeleteI am interested in talking about Bahaism. Let's talk about your cult.
DeleteAnd yes, this is criteria is not set by me. Read the post carefully it is by Hassan who is being very often quoted by your cultists.
ReplyDeleteIf you are calling the bahia a cult from this crap lets go back to other religiong shall we and compare. Christanity collects money so there a cult. Musslims make there women cover there head and threaten them so they must be a cult. Lets put it this way all religion fit at least two of theses thins so all religions are a cult no matter what you sayw
ReplyDeleteDear Sara
ReplyDeleteThis article is totally based on the definition of Cult by Steve Hassan. Why I chose Hassan's definition to write this post? Because the Haifan Baha'is very often quote him and try to prove by his definition that their cult is not a cult. But according to his definition your Religion / faith or whatever is 100% cult. Lets analyze again :
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Dangerous Cults: With many cults, you don't get to know what you are getting into until after you have made a commitment.
Baha'is are the greatest liars. This definition 100% fits for Baha'is. Search for Baha'i hypocrisy and read why? As for Islam or any other religion. There is no deception. It is WYSIWYG.
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Dangerous Cults: Commercial operations and/or mandatory donations (often large percentages) by members.
In Islam or any other religion you are only answerable to God but in Baha'ism you are being monitored by the ABMs and Counselors. If you have a lot of money and you do not pay Huququllah and do not contribute to various funds then you are in trouble.
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Dangerous Cults: Cults usually have a central living figure who often lives on income from adherents.
In Islam there is no such central figure. But in Haifan Baha'ism there are many parasites who lives on the income of poor people. ABMs, Counselors, ITCs, UHJ Members all get huge amounts from the money contributed by Poor, Sincere, Innocent, entrapped Baha'is.
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Dangerous Cults: Members are often told that it is dangerous to investigate other religions.
In Islam there is open debate between various sects and denominations. But in Baha'ism there is no debate. The Baha'is are told not to read the CB stuff. They are kept away from all the CB material. Show me a place where the Baha'is have had an 'Open Debate' with any Azali or any Orthodox Baha'i.
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Dangerous Cults: There is often use of "thought-stopping" techniques such as chanting or speaking in tongues for long periods of time, setting up a type of hypnotic atmosphere
The Quran at many places invites its readers to Think and Ponder. But in Baha'ism there is no process of thinking. Haifan Baha'ism is dictating and stalinist and only demands total obedience to the UHJ. This makes the atmosphere in Baha'i meetings 'hypnotic'.
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Dangerous Cults: Guilt and fear are often used to control members, including alternating praise and public humiliation or forced confession, and indoctrination against leaving the group.
In other religions, there are no administrative body like the ABMs for Protection (the Baha'i Police). In Baha'ism you are always being watched and you are publicly punished for even a small mistake. They publicly humiliate you by taking your voting / administrative rights
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Dangerous Cults: People who leave cults are often considered to be dangerous and are usually shunned
DO I NEED TO EXPLAIN YOU THIS?
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I hope I have proved you that you are a Cultist. Please ask me more and I will be glad to discuss with you further.
I was a Baha'i for a couple of years and I learned that it is just about money. They build massive buildings around the world, claiming the buildings will attract new members. New members are pressured to recruit more new members who will pay more money for more buildings. The behavior of the members is no different than the rest of the world. some of them are decent, some of them are pretty bad people. Like most religions, it mainly attracts poor uneducated people who still believe in giving the little money they have to the chosen one. and they lie about their numbers. In my community there was only about a dozen bahai's who were active, but they said they had a couple of hundred......most of them were no longer bahai's but were still part of the statistics because they had not officially resigned.
ReplyDeleteI am currently in touch with many Baha'is from all over Canada and I have been assured that the situation of the Faith here in the Yukon is the same that is being experienced in many other Provinces and communities.
ReplyDeleteAs Robert Henderson said in the last issue of American Baha'i enrolments in the Faith are down 60% in the last 5 years. The situation in Canada is most likely very similar. Along with those who have passed to the Abha Kingdom and those who are continuing to become inactive the truth is that we are hardly maintaining the membership level of ten years ago besides growing in membership. I wish the truth was different but thems the facts, people are leaving or not joining the Baha'i Faith because of the distinctive cultish feel which is becoming ever more pervasive in the Faith.
As a Baha'i I began encountering this cultish overzealous feel in the community of Baha' around twenty years ago, the situation has only worsened, and will continue to do so until creative and intelligent solutions to the growing polarization in the community of Baha' are fostered.
Ignoring this natural dynamic is no solution, blaming it on " internal " enemies only creates an intolerably paranoid atmosphere which causes Baha'i to flee, to leave the Faith, to go into "hibernation" as Hossein Banani said.
There is only us, we are them, ' as one soul'.
Larry Rowe