The 'lofty' claims of Baha'ism debunked


"Nowhere but in the purity of its precepts, the sublimity of its standards, the integrity of its laws, the reasonableness of its claims, the comprehensiveness of its scope, the universality of its program, the flexibility of its institutions, the lives of its founders, the heroism of its martyrs, and the transforming power of its influence," OK, lets examine each of these claims to measure their merit.

1: "Purity of it's precepts" - The precept of the oneness of humanity which is directly contradicted by the Baha'i doctrine of shunning as well as the Baha'i religious practice of labeling those whose religious interpretations are diverse from the Haifan Baha'i elite as being spiritually contagious lepers.

2: "Sublimity of it's standards" - The supposed standard of the removal of the past religious practice of dividing humanity the "pure tree" from the "evil tree", a religious practice which the founders of the Baha'i Faith as well as Shoghi Effendi, as well as the UHJ today, and in turn all Baha'is who religiously follow these exemplars directly contradict though continuing to divide humanity the chosen from those nasty evil covenant breakers, as well as the supposed standard of the abolition and nullification of the past religious practice of shunning a religious practice that the Baha'i founders practiced religiously, and which Shoghi Effendi applied to his entire family, his own parents included.

3: "The integrity of it's laws." Bigamy allowed for men, inequality for women in inheritance, as well as the burning alive of arsonists.

4: "The reasonableness of it's claims" - The claim that Baha'u'llah was not only a manifestation of god but god incarnate, an idolatrous claim which Baha'u'llah himself refused to dissuade his delusional followers from holding as well as the claim that in spite of all the many contradictions and even hypocrisy between Baha'i teachings and the manner that the founders conduced their own lives that Baha'u'llah's spiritual station was higher than any human beings spiritual station, former manifestations included.

5: "The comprehensiveness of it's scope" How can any ideology which makes the claim that all of humanity which does not bend the knee to that ideology is ignorant and deserving of being "cleansed" by their god be comprehensive? Quite the opposite.

6: "The universality of it's program"- An exclusivistic and triumphalistic program which excludes the majority of humanity can not be universal and is truly the antithesis of universality.

7: "The flexibility of it's institutions" - Lol!!! This is truly a joke. The Guardianship which was to be central to that flexibility is no more, the present UHJ has shown no flexibility whatsoever, not even a desire to be just, to respect due process, to actually have the integrity to inform those Baha'is it has so callously rubbed out, erased from Baha'i membership roles, of exactly what they have done or said to offend them.

8: "The lives of it's founders" - Men who said one thing but in their own lives did another thing. Men who said that shunning was nullified and abolished yet religiously shunned in their own lives. Men who said that we should draw no lines between ourselves and others, that we should see no one as an enemy but who did exactly this in their own lives drew lines and saw enemies, even among their own family members.

8: "The heroism of its martyrs" - The martyr complex in religion has as many negative manifestations as it does positive ones, the Baha'i Faith included.

9: "The transforming power of it's influence" - What influence I would have to ask. 150 years after it's inception the Baha'i Faith still remains a disappearingly minor influence in the world. What exactly has the Baha'i faith transformed except the hillside of Mount Carmel?  

Cheers

Larry Rowe

Source : TRB

US House Resolution 134 supporting the Baha'is of Iran



The United States is 'very concerned' about the situation of Baha'is in Iran. How much it is concerned about the situation of Muslims in Myanmar? The situation of Christians in Israel, Palestine and Syria? The situation of "Baha'is in Israel", where they are not being treated as equal citizens. They are not allowed to teach their religion Freely and accept new converts in Israel.

The Baha'is and the United States must reveal the exact figures of the persecuted Baha'is anywhere.
How many of them are in Prisons (those like Guantanamo Bay and Abu Ghraib)? How many of them have been killed in the past 50 years? How many Illiterate Baha'is are there? How many have died of hunger? How many of them have been raped? How many Baha'i Orphans are there? How many of them have been tortured and mutilated? How many of their homes have been destroyed?

Then the United States must reveal the figures of  :
Innocent Palestinians killed by Zionist Occupying Forces in the last 50 years.
Innocent Pakistanis killed by US Terror Drones in the last 5 years.
Innocent people killed in Japan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, Congo.

To learn more about what good "United States" has done to this world, please visit this website :
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/

UHJ hath been nullified and abolished !

UHJ members should return to their "native countries" and contemplate the writings of Baha'u'llah !
By Ron House

"We have erewhile declared - and Our Word is the truth -: "Consort with the followers of all religions in a spirit of friendliness and fellowship." Whatsoever hath led the children of men to shun one another, and hath caused dissensions and divisions amongst them, hath, through the revelation of these words, been nullified and abolished." (Baha'u'llah - Ref: http://info.bahai.org/article-1-3-2-26.html )

Now:

Axiom: The UHJ causes the children of men to shun one another. (There are occasionally many letters being sent to various NSAs ordering them to Shun certain people of their community, the NSA regularly takes away the Administrative Rights of certain individuals with the warning of Shunning, The facts are Baha'is claim to associate with all people with joy and fragrance and yet they secretly bust up families.)

Axiom: "Whatsoever hath led the children of men to shun one another...hath ... been nullified and abolished."

Conclusion: Therefore the UHJ hath been nullified and abolished.

I didn't say it, Baha'u'llah did.

Question & Answer from TRB !!! Please contribute with your answers....


Baha'i Social Activities

Question by : parodyrun...@gmail.com
In a majority Baha'i society, how would heretics and dissidents be treated? If for example, someone believed in Baha’ullah but not necessarily the UHJ, how would that person function in a Baha'i society? Would they be allowed in restaurants or hospitals? Would they have a different drinking fountain or worse. Would they be taken to court for calling themselves Baha'is?

Answer by : Wahid Azal (Renowned Azali)
In a, God forbid, baha'i state all dissidents and heretics would be rounded up and either permanently institutionalized (gulag prisons or psychiatric concentration camps), starved to death or disappeared.

Another Answer by : Ron House (Ex-Baha'i)
They would be shunned, their friends and family forcibly broken up, and they would be jailed, the jailers prohibited from talking to them.


Getting chummy with old mates!

"...Sir 'Abbas Effendi 'Abdu'l Baha had travelled extensively in Europe and America to expound his doctrines, and on the 4th December, 1919, was created by King George V. a K.B.E. for valuable services rendered to the British Government in the early days of the Occupation....." (This is written by the then British Governor of Occupied Palestine)

Abdul Baha's friendship with the Military Personals
Top Secret British Documents (For more details see : http://bahaisandbritannia.googlepages.com/home)

Top Secret British Documents (For more details see : http://bahaisandbritannia.googlepages.com/home)

Getting chummy with old mates!
The micro community of 5000 Baha'is; most of whom are Iranians, is one of the most dear Community to the government of UK. May be more dearer then the Jewish Community!

In 1918, the world was at war. The British fought the Turks for control of Palestine, and the British occupied Palestine in late 1918 at the Battle of the the Valley of Megiddo ("Armageddon").


Abdul Baha servant of the then Imperialist British Empire !

This is from the Haifan Baha'i Sources :

...on the prompt intervention of Lord Lamington, who immediately wrote to the Foreign Office to "explain the importance of 'Abdu'l-Bahá's position;" on the despatch which the Foreign Secretary, Lord Balfour, on the day of the receipt of this letter, sent to General Allenby, instructing him to "extend every protection and consideration to 'Abdu'l-Bahá, His family and His friends;" on the cablegram subsequently sent by the General, after the capture of Haifa, to London, requesting the authorities to "notify the world that 'Abdu'l-Bahá is safe;" on the orders which that same General issued to the General Commanding Officer in command of the Haifa operations to insure ‘Abdu'l-Baha's safety,...
The 'love' of the then cunning British Governors for Abdul Baha:

...Nor were the British authorities slow to express their appreciation of the role which 'Abdu'l-Bahá had played in allaying the burden of suffering that had oppressed the inhabitants of the Holy Land during the dark days of that distressing conflict. The conferment of a knighthood upon Him at a ceremony specially held for His sake in Haifa, at the residence of the British Governor, at which notables of various communities had assembled; the visit paid Him by General and Lady Allenby, who were His guests at luncheon in Bahji, and whom He conducted to the Tomb of Bahá'u'lláh; the interview at His Haifa residence between Him and King Feisal who shortly after became the ruler of Iraq; the several calls paid Him by Sir Herbert Samuel (later Viscount Samuel of Carmel) both before and after his appointment as High Commissioner for Palestine; His meeting with Lord Lamington who, likewise, called upon Him in Haifa, as well as with the then Governor of Jerusalem, Sir Ronald Storrs;...

He was knighted "Sir Abbas Effendi 'Abdu'l-Baha" by the British in 1920 by General Allenby.
Abdul Baha getting rewarded for his Services rendered to the British Occupiers and Killers.
The man holding the award is Mr. Badi Bushrui, the father of Soheil Bushrui, at the far right, the second man is Harlan Ober, and the woman next to him is his wife, Grace Ober, holding a white piece of paper in her hand.  Two men to the left of Mr. Ober, with his left hand in his pocket and a cane in his right hand, appears to be Dr. Lutfullah Hakim, who was, 43 years later, elected to the Universal House of Justice.
Getting chummy with old mates!
Eric Pickles MP, Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government– pictured right – examines personal and historical items associated with ‘Abdu’l-Baha at a reception hosted by the British government for the Baha’i community, 28 November 2012.
UK BAHA’I NEWS EMAIL SERVICE
5 December 2012 /13 Qawl 169 B.E.

Dearly loved Friends

In an unprecedented event, the UK government through its Department for Communities and Local Government initiated and hosted a reception in honour of the UK Bahá’í community to celebrate the Centenary of ‘Abdu’l-Bahá’s visit to Britain.

The gathering was held on Wednesday 28 November, the anniversary of the passing of the Beloved Master, at Eland House in London and attended by Government Ministers, Members of Parliament, civil servants, and some 80 believers representing the diversity of the UK community. The reception was addressed by the Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government, the Rt Hon Eric Pickles MP and the Minister for Integration, the Rt Hon Don Foster MP, who both spoke with warmth and appreciation for the contribution Bahá’ís are making to the betterment of their local communities. The Minister for Integration also quoted passages from the Writings of the Master, emphasising their ongoing relevance to the current needs of individuals and communities in the UK and the Government’s support in working towards their realisation.  A representative of the Bahá’í community also shared some remarks about the significance of the Master’s visit to Britain and the current work of the UK Bahá’í community.

The reception at Eland House represents a significant step forward in the Bahá'í community’s relationship with the UK Government and a full report of the proceedings can be found at http://news.bahai.org/story/932.

With loving Bahá'í greetings

NATIONAL SPIRITUAL ASSEMBLY

Kishan Manocha
Secretary of External Affairs