Baha'is are not just Political, they are Hypocritical as well

The Baha'i faith is one of the most political movements around. After all, principles such as the ending of absolute national sovereignty, world government, universal currency, universal language, world tribunal, anti-communism, retention of constitutional monarchism, the abolition of non-Baha'i religious legal systems the retention of a class system, the abolition of tariffs, international police force, and so on are among the hottest political agendas.

Baha'i Faith is now no more concerned about Writings of Baha'u'llah, the laws of Aqdas and so on. What it is now concerned about is : The Trademark Registration, The Incorporation of the so called ‘Spiritual Assemblies’, The formation of External Affairs Departments with the objectives of establishing cordial relationship with political leaders and Media etc.

Having lost acceptability in the society the Baha'is have indulged themselves into cheap publicity for their so called Faith by writing open letters and having peace marches - read political marches - all over the world. These are indications of extreme depression and frustration enveloping in the Baha'i Administration.

Caring a damn for India, the Persian Baha'i representative in India, Mrs. Farida Vahedi betraying Indian hospitality, scolded and humiliated the Indians working at the Baha'i House at Delhi and went to the extent of saying “I care a damn for your country and its laws.” Well, Indians do care for their country and its laws.

Farida Vahedi and Nazneen Rowhani - Persian Ladies who control the Indian Baha'i Community

Baha'i Publicity in Germany

Baha'i Publicity in Australia

Baha'i Publicity in UK

Baha'i Publicity in US

Baha'is around the world are making attempts to use the media to proclaim the name of their Faith, to attract innocent non-Baha'is to their fold who are potential converts. And to make known the aims and existence of the Baha'i community. A first step of propagation and conversion.

The imprisonment of their Leaders in Iran is not a cause of concern to them, but an opportunity to develop a good rapport with Media. Here is an extract :

“A few preliminary thoughts on how the development of relations with the media can support and reinforce the major areas of activity of the Baha'i community. It seems important to acknowledge at the outset that many of the values which seem to underpin the work of the media today—an attachment to sensationalism, preoccupation with short-term concerns, and attraction to controversy, to name but a few—will likely present certain challenges in this regard. It is hoped that Baha'is making efforts in this field will be able to engage in learning about using the media to reinforce the efforts of the Baha'i community in ways that are consistent with its beliefs and activities.

The question of “newsworthiness” - For a story to be considered newsworthy by journalists, it generally needs to be seen as unusual, interesting and current. Unfortunately, this often leads to a focus on controversy and contention. While the persecution of the believers in Iran, such as the imprisonment of the former members of the Yárán, can meet the accepted criteria for newsworthiness from time to time, the longer the detention continues the more difficult it becomes to maintain media interest. To try to tell the story of Baha'is endeavoring to make a contribution to the material and spiritual wellbeing of the neighborhoods and villages in which they reside might well provide an even greater”

Not only is it disgraceful, but it is extremely hypocritical for the Baha'is seeking its condemnation of Iran for persecution of Baha'is, when they are doing the same to other sects of their own Faith namely, Orthodox Baha'is, Baha'is Under the Provision of Covenant and Reform Baha'is.

The persecution of the Haifan Baha'is towards the other sects of Baha'is may be different in scale (but only because the Haifan Baha'is does not have the power to imprison or execute them), they are motivated by the same idea that they perceive these sects to be heretical and because they are opposed to their religious authority, the so called ‘Universal House of Justice’. Such is the intolerance that Baha'is expect the federal courts in the United States to enforce their version of the Baha'i Faith, and say they are the one true Faith and other sects cannot be Baha'is.

Thank God that they were humiliated and disgraced by the Federal Courts in United States not once, not twice but thrice. The Baha'is should organize a peace march against the court ruling of United States as well.

Their entire Baha'i organization is a house of cards ready to tumble down at any time.

It is hardly enough to say that Baha'is are ‘non-political’ — they are not just a political group but they are politics personified and hypocritical as well.


By : Ravi Kumar
Source : http://groups.google.com/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/634a1aea6baf9521#

Plans to build new "Houses of Hypocrisy" announced

HAIFA, Israel — With the construction under way in Chile of the last of the continental Baha'i Houses of Worship, plans have been announced for the building of the first two national Baha'i Temples – in the Democratic Republic of the Congo and Papua New Guinea.

The historic announcement was made yesterday by the Universal House of Justice in its annual message to mark the first day of Ridvan, the holiest festival in the Baha'i year.

http://news.bahai.org/story/906

Bayanis (Azalis) throught the world celebrate New Year 165

Siyyid `Alí Muḥammad Shírází (Báb)

Today (23 April 2012) is the 1st of the month of Baha' (splendor) and so the beginning of the Year 165 of the Bayani calendar. Unlike the Baha'is who illogically calculate this calendar from the Naw-Ruz of 1844, according to the diary of the Bab Himself reproduced in the Book of the Five Grades (kitab panj sha'n), the Bayani calendar began as of March 20th 1850. Also unlike the Baha'is the Bayani calendar possesses no intercalary days to make up for the 365/366 solar year cycle deficiency. The calendar of the Bab follows a strict scheme of 361 days (19 x 19) so that the beginning of every new year falls on a different day than the one previous. This is because the Bayani calendar is supposed to reflect and symbolize the all-things/kullu-shay' (19 x 19 = 361).

Given the occasion, I would like to here extend a heartfelt happy new Bayani Year to the Bayani community of Iran and abroad, and hope that our collective efforts to set the historical record straight against 146 years of orchestrated persecution by the Baha'i establishment with their anti-Bayani Baha'i propaganda and historical whitewashes - which the Western establishment has helped them diffuse - will finally begin to pay off.
This Year of 165 should be a significant year since 165 is the abjad numerical value of there is no god but God لا اله الا الله

Nima Wahid Azal
Official website of the Bayani Community
http://bayanic.com

(1) The station of Subh-i-Azal (2) What is Ridvan? (3) Why Baha'u'llah threw his writings in Tigris River? (4) The miracle of 'Prostration of flowers' at the feet of Baha'u'llah

The Garden of Ridvan in Akko, Israel. This is not that 'Original' Garden of Ridvan. It was in Baghdad.

(Quoting from Nari's (Baha'u'llah's) Baghdad era Will & Testament) To wit,

" ...Hear the call of the Most Holy Leaf [i.e. Subh-i Azal] speaking unto thee from behind the Veils, for it is He who is the One whom God [i.e. the Essence of the Seven Letters] hath appointed as the Peerless. Verily He is the Praeternal luminary ...Whomsoever turns aside from Him hath perished ...He is the White Hand in the Siniatic Mount for the Israel of the Bayán ...There is no god but He [Azal], the Living, the Powerful, the Peerless [al-hayy al-muhayyamin al-qayyúm is a laudatory doxological cipher of Azal's]...The Godhead hath ordained in the Book that after the Remembrance all should turn themselves towards the Axis of this Cause...O People of the Bayán, can anyone produce like verses as unto those revealed in the Book? ...Verily the Remnant of the Godhead in these days is the Ascendant Light [i.e. Subh-i-Azal, since tal'at-i-núr was one of his titles].

Witness in your hearts that appearance of the Ascendant Light, for that the Remnant of the Godhead who will appear in the mustaghath is indeed the Truth, regarding which there is no doubt. And verily we are all among the expectant.

Subh-i-Azal, the successor of Bab

 Say, Is not the Face of the Light [i.e. Azal] sufficient unto ye all, who is seen from behind the Veils of Glory by a command from the Godhead, the All-Seeing, the Peerless. O people, have I not summoned ye unto the Godhead and Its verses and unto the Ascendant Light?...Upon you be the Remembrance [i.e. Dhikr, the Essence of the Seven Letters] and on those who prostrate themselves before Face of the Godhead [wajh'ullah, i.e. Subh-i-Azal].

...Verily, the Godhead hath made that Joseph the [Ascendant] Light [i.e. Subh-i-Azal] the Sovereign of the True One in the city of the Bayán. But the people are as dead, concealing themselves within the veils of their own base egos, for verily the leaves of these pages are proof of my servitude to His Face [i.e. Subh-i-Azal], would ye but know it, otherwise destroy them in the River so that those in the realm of contingency might bear witness to the verses of the Godhead, their Lord."

Historical view of Baghdad and Tigris River, where Husayn Ali Nari destroyed his writings.

I believe it is not as far-fetched as it appears that those Baghdad era "tablets" ordered to be washed away and destroyed by Mírzá Aqá Ján Káshání Khádim'ullah, his amanuensis, in the Euphrates River were in actual fact all in this vein to the last; this, rather than the now unsupportable, hollow and tendentious theory propounded in popular Bahá'í literature that he destroyed these works because no one could be found to bear the profundity of such `revelations'! It is doubtful whether Husayn `Alí could have construed any lofty esoteric doctrine beyond the understanding of his contemporaries or thereafter. The utterly boring, unprofound and stale obtuseness of all his post-Baghdad era works tout court are sufficient proof of this fact. And even with his Baghdad era works there is nothing in them which possesses originality or that wasn't already expounded better by others before or after him elsewhere (I am thinking here of his Seven Valleys, Four Valleys, Hidden Words and Ode to the Dove, all four of which are specifically bad summary rip-offs from `Attár's Conference of the Birds, Mullá Sadrá's Four Journeys (Asfár Arba'a), ahadíth qudsí (extra-Quranic saying of the Godhead) or Imamite doxologies and theopathic sayings (such as those included in Kulayní's usúl min al-káfí), and Umar Ibn al-Fárid's Ode of the Way (al-ta'íyyat'ul-kúbrá). Even the prophetology of his Kitáb-i-Iqán does not reach a distant glimmer of the shores of profundity to match that of an Ibn `Arabí's in the Bezels of Wisdom, let alone that of the Bayán's). With some of the originals of such documentation now available, it is not that difficult any longer to reveal hagiography, deliberate historical whitewash, obfuscation and mythmaking for what it is, especially in such popular works as Shoghi Effendi's God Passes By (Wilmette: 1970), the works of Taherzadeh (the Bahá'í equivalent of the Christian heresiographer Tertullian), or even Cole's Modernity and the Millennium (Cornell: 1998) (a work I once thought very highly of, but as new, overwhelmingly evidence came to light, revealed to me to be the same old, same old, just merely couched in secular academic language and contextualization). The colophon of this epistle bears the date of May 1863, the date immediately after he apparently revealed his cause in the garden of Ridwán. It seems, however, to have originally been composed at an earlier date. The text of the will appears to be in the handwriting of Mírzá 'Abd'ul-Jawád of Khurásán, also known as Mírzá Wahháb of Khurásán. The colophon at the beginning and at the end of the will are, moreover, penned in the handwriting of Husayn `Alí himself personally. The colophon states as follows: "This is my book of the testament. People, take heed!" The May 1863 date for the re-transcription and personal authentication of this document by the author proves that at this very date, a month after he had apparently made his overt claim according to Bahá'í sources, Husayn `Alí was - in writing, anyway - outwardly professing total spiritual subservience towards Azal. Regarding his declaration at the Garden of Ridwán in Baghdad, Badíeh has this to say,

The Garden of Ridvan - Baghdad

[Husayn `Alí's] ornamental couch was placed [the night before] in the street [adjoining the garden]. The neighborhood on both sides was well known for its flowers, renowned as the Muhammadan Rose [gol-i-muhammadí]. During the night [Mírzá Aqá Ján Káshání] Khádim'ullah cut the flowers from the surrounding branches and laid them all on the couch. Then upon the break of morn, [Mírzá Aqá Ján Káshání came back and] began his cries, moaning and clamour that "the manifestation has occurred," "the flowers have prostrated themselves at the blessed feet" and that "for no prophet or saint before this, and in such evident manner, has a miracle such as this ever occurred!" And such is [the tale of the truth] regarding the celebration of the day of flowers [i.e. Ridwán], which their "holinesses" celebrate [proclaiming] that the flower branches had prostrated themselves at their feet!

My translation, vaqá'i-i-rástín-i-takúr-i-núr (A True Account of Takúr in Núr), pp. 24-25.

Nima Wahid Azal


Source : TRB

The Bahá’í Internet Agency

The Bahá’í Internet Agency states on its website that it "assists the global Bahá’í community in its use of the Internet, providing technical support to Bahá’í institutions and supporting promising initiatives of individuals. Established in 2004 by the Universal House of Justice, the Bahá’í Internet Agency operates under the guidance of the International Teaching Centre."

The decision to establish the Agency was communicated to the various Baha'i "National Spiritual Assemblies" in the following correspondence, dated June 2005:

Universal House of Justice, Department of the Secretariat

16 June 2005

Internet Agency
Transmitted by email
To all National Spiritual Assemblies

Dear Bahá'í Friends,

Opportunities to spread the teachings of Bahá'u'lláh and to make known to society at large the activities of the Bahá'í community have grown markedly in recent years, especially with the rise in use of computer technology. Following consultations with the International Teaching Centre, the Universal House of Justice has decided to create an international Bahá'í Internet Agency to assist the :Counsellors and National Spiritual Assemblies in addressing certain issues associated with the propagation and protection of the Faith as they pertain to the Internet. Operating under the direct supervision of the Teaching Centre, the agency is based in the United States, where it has established an office with a full-time director.

In the months ahead, after preliminary preparations have been made, the Bahá'í Internet Agency will contact National Assemblies and provide information about the services it can offer. The Bahá'í Computer and Communications Association (BCCA) and the Security Advisory Group, which have over the years extended technical and Internet-related support to national communities worldwide, will :continue to make a valuable contribution to this area of endeavour, functioning now under the direction of the agency.

With loving Bahá'í greetings,
Department of the Secretariat

cc: International Teaching Centre
Boards of Counsellors
Counsellors
Bahá'í Internet Agency

... The House of Justice feels that, when Bahá'ís are teaching in an online “chat room” and Covenant-breakers intrude upon the discussion, the friends should not feel obliged to sign off simply because Covenant-breakers are present in this virtual space. They should, however, refrain from knowingly engaging the Covenant-breakers in discussions and, in any case, should avoid being drawn into contentious or disputatious situations. (October 27, 1997 to an individual)

... The wisdom of participating in particular discussions, must, of necessity, depend upon circumstances prevailing at the time. When, through such discussions, the Faith is attacked or erroneous information about it is disseminated, it may become necessary for individual Bahá'ís to actively defend it. In some circumstances, however, to avoid participating in argumentative exchanges, attracting attention to enemies of the Faith, or engaging Covenant-breakers, it will be more appropriate to withdraw from the discussion.

... The participants in such a discussion should avoid disputation and, if they are unable to resolve an issue, they should refer the point to the Universal House of Justice since, in accordance with the Will and Testament of ‘Abdu’l-Bahá, “By this body all the difficult problems are to be resolved…”

What BIA does?
 
Instructs Baha'is :

Having multiple screen names and identities is allowed in discussion forums. While obscuring one’s identity is acceptable, lying about oneself is not.

Monitors use of the social networking site Facebook
In February, 2008, Matthew Weinberg, Program Director for the Baha'i Internet Agency, released the following email letter on behalf of the Haifan Baha'i administration (see Baha'i Faith). The letter refers to the activities of the "Covenant-breaker Martin Lavallee", a member of the schismatic Orthodox Baha'is and warns members of the Haifan Baha'i community against possible 'exposure' to this individual arising from contact on the social networking site, Facebook. "Covenant breaking" is a term employed by the Haifan Baha'is to refer to groups and individuals who challenge "the authority of the center of the Baha'i Faith", which in this context refers to the authority of the Universal House of Justice, and is considered "the most serious spiritual offence that a Bahá'í can commit. It's called Covenant-Breaking and is considered to be a spiritual disease and is punished by expulsion from the community."

"28 February 2008
To All National Spiritual Assemblies

Dear Bahá'í Friends,

We have been requested by the World Centre to alert you to the current activities of the Covenant-breaker Martin Lavallee on Facebook.com. This individual administers the "Orthodox Bahá'is" page on Facebook and also has a personal page on the site. There have been recent instances where Bahá'í youth with accounts on Facebook have unwittingly accepted invitations from Lavallee to be a "friend" or to become "members" of the Covenant-breaker page. Further, as a consequence of the Facebook networking scheme, if an individual accepts a direct invitation from Lavallee or any other member of his group, the "Friends" list (with e-mail addresses) of that individual becomes exposed. In this way, those with insincere intentions have the potential to directly contact an increasing number of Bahá'is, interactions that could pose a threat to the spiritual well-being of youth and other believers who are not deepened in the Covenant.

Each National Assembly will need to determine the necessity and most appropriate manner of discreetly informing believers of this situation in consultation and with the assistance of the Counsellors. In doing so it will of course be important to avoid creating undue anxiety or curiosity about the nature of Covenant-breaker material on the Internet..

It is our intention to provide more general guidance in the near future about how online social networks can be constructively and safely used by Bahá'ís.

With loving greetings,

Matt Weinberg Program Director Bahá'í Internet Agency
cc: Members of the Continental Boards of Counsellors" 

Monitors schismatic Baha'i groups and "Covenant Breaker" websites
The Baha'i Internet Agency also monitors the online activity of schismatic Baha'i groups, and groups or individuals known as "Covenant Breakers" (see above section). In correspondence entitled "Good object lesson for avoiding reading Covenant-breaker sites", Susan Maneck has responded to the issue of the avoidance of schismatic group's online material as follows:

"Dear Kathryn,

There isn't any 'clear' guidance on this issue but if you have suspicions you can always contact the Baha'i Internet Agency. They pretty much keep up with what is on the internet. There are 'key words' which are often used by these groups which help me to spot them right away. For instance anyone purporting to be a Baha'i who goes on and on about the "Throne of David" is likely to be a Jensenite because this is something they are obsessed with. Anyone referring to mainstream Baha'is as "Haifan Baha'is" are likely to be hostile towards the Universal House of Justice whether they are declared Covenant breakers or not. Remeyites use terms like 'sans-Guardian' and 'heterodox' to refer to mainstream Baha'is. Then, of course, there are people like Stephen who may throw these terms around without having the foggiest idea who they imply. ;-}

I would like to add here that if there are any questions people have regarding some of the material they read on the internet, they should feel free to raise them here. What I have *discouraged* is the posting of the URLs of Covenant breakers and those hostile towards the Faith or the Universal House of Justice.

warmest, Susan”

Prior communication from the International Teaching Centre to Baha'i academics regarding Internet activities
In illustrating the coercive measures historically employed by the Baha'i organization in dealing with internet based criticism, Professor Juan Cole cites a 1996 letter to a Baha'i academic from Stephen Birkland, Member of the Continental Board of Counsellors in the Americas, written in consultation with the International Teaching Centre (the body currently responsible for the administration of the Baha'i Internet Agency), stating that "The International Teaching Centre has asked me--with the knowledge of the Universal House of Justice--to warn you that your promulgation of views contrary to the Teachings was damaging to the Cause. If you were to resume in any fashion this course of action, the effect would be to bring you into direct conflict with the Covenant."

"Protection of the Cause: Opposition Sites are known to the Institutions, and action is taken where appropriate."

Glen Fullmer, Director of Communications for the Baha'i Community of the United States

In a 2005 presentation by Glen Fullmer, Mr. Fullmer outlined the activities, responsibilities and strategies employed by the Baha'i Internet Agency. During his talk, Mr.Fullmer discussed the relationship between the Bahai Internet Agency and "Protection of the Cause" and "Propagation of the Faith", highlighting the relationship between the Agency, the International Teaching Center, and the various National Spiritual Assemblies. When explaining the topic of "Protection of the Faith on the Internet", Mr Fullmer refers to a slide which states that:

"Opposition Sites are known to the Institutions, and action is taken where appropriate."
"In general however, the best defense is a good offense. Individuals and institutions can create lots of positive content about the Faith to counteract the negative effects of opposition sites."
"In some cases, an individual response can be even more effective."

Members

Matthew Weinberg is the current Program Director of the Baha’i Internet Agency, at the Baha'i World Centre. He has formerly served as the Director of The Institute for Studies in Global Prosperity, and as the Director of Research for the Office of Public Information of the Bahá'í International Community

Thane Terrill is a member of the Baha’i Internet Agency and the current Director of Information Services at the Baha'i International Community United Nations Office. Thane Terrill also serves as Adjunct Associate Professor of Computing at Teachers College, Columbia University.
He visited the UK from 18-21 May to meet with Baha'is and with some specialist groups, such as bloggers, podcasters and publishers. Rob Weinberg can also be seen in this picture.

 

Pedraum Pardehpoosh Representative, BIA. He is Senior Product Manager for App Stores at Apple Inc, having previously worked as Senior Product Manager for Movies/TV/Audiobooks/Podcasts at Apple Inc. and Senior Manager for Website Features. He has also acted as Director of Program Management at Walmart.com. Pardehpoosh represents The Spiritual Assembly of The Baha'is of Palo Alto, California as their registered agent.

Source : http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Baha%E2%80%99i_Internet_Agency

Disgraced “Psychiatrist”, Hossain B. Danesh to address seminar on Baha’i Marriage and Family

Originally Posted by Baquia on April 8, 2012

It is deeply troubling to see the National Assembly of Canada continue to promote Hossain B. Danesh. He is provided with official Baha’i venues, promoted through official channels and presented as a leading figure to the community in the very field from which he was expelled because of sexual misconduct towards his patients.

To those unfamiliar with the history, Hossain Danesh was a psychiatrist practicing in Canada as well as a long time member of the National Spiritual Assembly of the Baha’is of Canada from the 1980′s to early 1990′s. He was Secretary General of the NSA for many of those years.

Multiple patients brought charges of sexual misconduct against Hossain Banadaki Danesh. The result of the investigation and procedure was that in 1994 the Ontario College of Physicians and Surgeons along with Hossain Danesh and the victims came to an out of court agreement. This agreement resulted in Danesh being stripped of his membership in that organization as well as losing his legal rights to practice as a psychiatrist and the forfeiting of any future application for re-entry into same. As well, Danesh agreed to pay $10,000 towards the costs of therapy for the three former patients. Danesh did not admit to any of the charges as part of the out of court settlement, which is normal for these sorts of things.

Throughout the process Danesh was allowed to maintain his membership in the NSA and he only resigned his membership because he had been gifted a new cushy job as head of the newly established Baha’i university, Landegg Academy, in Switzerland. Danesh was shipped off across the ocean, away from the scandal and safely nestled into this new job. Unfortunately the gig didn’t last long as Danesh’s management and leadership sank Landegg into a sea of debt.

Now that Hossein Danesh is back in Canada, the ‘old boy’ network, of which he was a ranking member, has continued to promote him in the very field in which he disgraced himself. In the past few years he has been repeatedly promoted by the institutions for seminars such as “Healthy Marriage and Family Life” and “Shaping our Destiny: An Open Forum for Youth and Young Adults”. The latest will be April 15th at the Toronto Baha’i Center:

Reflections on the Baha’i Concept of Suffering
The talk will address suffering as often encountered in marriages and families these days and is suitable for both Baha’is and any interested friends. There will be time for questions and answers that permit exploring the many dimensions and experiences that frequently come up in relation to this topic. We are looking into making arrangements for simultaneous translation into Persian.

For those who may not know him, Dr. Danesh is an author, international lecturer and consultant, with more than thirty five years of academic and clinical experience as a psychiatrist and peace educator.

If someone is going to give a seminar on weight loss, you would balk if they waddled onto the stage, wheezing from the exertion of having to cart their massively obese form around. It is as ludicrous to have a man who was disgraced and thrown out of his profession for sexual misconduct to give a seminar on relationships.

Why is Danesh given the star treatment? why are seminars arranged for him? why are these community events promoted heavily by the NSA in Baha’i communities through official Baha’i channels? why is the truth about his past hidden? why is he referred to as a “psychiatrist” when he does not have the legal right to use that title?

To be clear this issue is not a personal one with Hossain Danesh. Rather it is about the nature of the community that we wish to develop and the values which we want to uphold and present to the world at large. It is wrong for the NSA of Canada to promote Danesh to a position of trust within the community for topics like family, relationships, and marriage simply because he was the quintessential insider. By doing so they are communicating that they are more aligned with personal ‘network’ connections and less so with the animating spirit and values of the Baha’i Faith. They are demonstrating that they value “Danesh’s” prestige more than they value the community itself.

Related post on Baha'i Rants :

1. Hossain Danesh Heavily Promoted By NSA

Hypocrite Baha'i counsellor gets caught telling the truth...

Mrs. Gloria Javed a high ranking Baha’i and a member of ‘Continental Board of Counsellors’ of Baha’is of Asia, who reports directly to the Universal House of Justice in Israel in an interview about the teaching of Baha’i Faith in India openly admits that Baha’is are involved in full scale conversion of Indians in a deceptive manner. She said that we have now become more straight-forward in converting Indian people to Baha’i religion, because the Universal House of Justice has asked us to do that.

She says, that after a certain time we ask our seeker (Children and Jr. Youth) if they would like to become Baha’is?, in the video she says:

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“you reach a point when you have to invite seeker to become a Baha’i and that was something we have never done before because we have been in the institute process and we have been focusing on core activities and just inviting people to the core activity but not actually asking them that question (of Conversion) and the first time in January we could not find the words, we used many different analogies, we are building a new world order and would you like to be a brick like us? we did different things and than an other board member my colleague used the example of we are all drops and if we all get together and work together we can make a change in this world but after three cycles of growth we become more audacious and this last time we actually asked the seekers do you think that you can accept Baha’u’llah as the manifestation of god?”

Regarding the conversion of the parents of these children and Jr. Youth, she said that, “We call the parents of the children and Jr. Youth and ask them to become Baha’is:”

“we announce to them that we would now like to talk to you about what is the force behind us working with your children over this long period and why we are working with them so that you can support us and you can help us and we immediately divide the parents into small groups and each of us sits with them with the album and directly teaches them faith and invite them to become baha’is and they accept just like that and parents are receptive and consolidation is easier as we have already have their children with us every week.”

On the other hand we see that the member of Universal House of Justice , Mr. Payman Mohajer saying that........ 

Now if someone were to ask us whether the purpose of our inviting them to join study circles is to make them Bahá’ís, we can confidently say 'NO' and tell them that the purpose of our core activities is to assist in the transformation and betterment of the society."

This is a clear case of Baha’i Hypocrisy and cheating in the Name of Moral Activities. The Indians and Malaysians should be aware of this CHEATING. It is not a hidden fact that many Indians who joined the Baha’i Faith thinking that it is a Social / Moral Building Organization are now questioning the Baha’i authorities that WHY DO THEY CHEAT THE PEOPLE BY USING THE MORAL AND SOCIAL ACTIVITIES?

FULL TEXT OF THE INTERVIEW

Interviewer: So Gloria you come from New Delhi we heard about lot of success is there using Anna’s presentation there so please tell about what had happen in new Delhi?

Gloria: Actually we started using Anna’s presentation in Januray of 2007 and the main purpose of using flip chart is to go through sequence of ideas inside the quotations and writings of Baha’u’llah.

In India a very big problem of teaching is that people didn’t mentioned that Bahai Faith is a religion in the beginning and the Baha’u’llah is the manifestation of God just like Lord Krishna and Jesus Christ and that he is the promised one of all and if you look at the introduction of Anna’s presentation all these things is written on the first page so than you are not hiding anything from the seeker being bold being assertive you have been audacious as the HOUSE OF JUSTICE asks us to do than you are teaching them directly so when they accept the Baha’i faith they are accepting as a religion and accepting Baha’u’llah as the manifestation of the God and not as an organization that does good thing and as Lotus Temple that accepts all the religions being unity of all religions.

Because I think Baha’i faith in India is known as force that unites all religions but they don’t know about Baha’u’llah and Baha’i faith as a religion. I think that made us very bold and we were very afraid to do it first time in January (2007) but I think that when you make yourself do something that you have never done before and you do it for Baha’u’llah it works.

And that we didn’t go into the controversial topics in Anna’s Presentation and you explain them and you reach a point when you have to invite seeker to become a Baha’i and that was something we have never done before because we have been in the institute process and we have been focusing core activity and just inviting people to the core activity but not actually asking them that question (of Conversion) and the first time in January we could not find the words, we used many different analogies, we are building a new world order and would you like to be a brick like us? we did different things and than an other board member my colleague used the example of we are all drops and if we all get together and work together we can make a change in this world but after three cycles of growth we become more audacious and this last time we actually asked the seekers do you think that you can accept Baha’u’llah as the manifestation of god? As directly as that - Yes

Interviewer:Directly as that and what stage of presentation did you ask them?

Gloria: Well, actually we realized that we cannot go through the whole album and seekers will get tired and loose their interest so we went through various Indian concept of covenant and manifestation of God of Baha’u’llah being most latest and unity of mankind..... We stop at the quotation of Abdul Baha and thought of more coming from their side but if they are sitting and they have more time than we are also going to the life of Baha’u’llah. Because in India there are many Gurus, people are following gurus and they think that Baha’u’llah is just another guru than we talk about, How manifestations of god are different, how they suffer from mankind and how yet they are so victorious and we compare it with lives of many of gurus in India and how wealthy and prosperous and living a comfortable life and then compare with him so that they don’t put him on the same level various Babas and Gurus so if we have time we go to victory of Baha’u’llah

And the two quotes are used that we have produced over here, yes, we hold it in our hand that was also challenge the first time i took it out from my bag I was extremely cautious and than I realized that they don’t know that this is the first time i am holding in my hand and I am very uncomfortable and nervous they think I always do it and this is what how we teach our faith and actually ask the seeker to read and it really effects them and we don’t realize that we if we explain to them they will be more touched but they read the words, they have their side, so we went ahead just using Anna’s Presentation and Direct Teaching Approach and inviting people to be Baha’is and its not that we all afraid do it but we think that they will feel that we are pressurizing them and making them something they don’t want to do but it is not like that we have experience over and over that people are ready to accept Baha’u’llah and we are the person who need to ask them and this was in suburban and central Delhi. In the beginning it was suburban where there were receptive population reside they are not wealthy but they are not jobless they all have jobs the workers at different stages but in the last two cycle we have also started affluent of neighborhoods of Delhi and we have smaller population declaring there but with them too we are using Anna’s presentation, we have bank managers, executives, young professionals working in call centers and these the Indians that are educated in various fields and also perusing their careers and I guess we consider them materialistic and think that they won’t listen but they do. We had a devotional with them in our home followed by Anna’s Presentation and actually we divided them to smaller groups and talk to them.

Interviewer : How you involve children parents to do the class and involve them and would you explain little about that?

Gloria : it is the neighborhood where we have Junior Youth Classes, Children Classes we consider their parents to be a community of interest, so then every cycle we hold devotional in neighborhood at large scale and infact we print a thousand invitation we give to youth and children of our classes to give to their parents, neighbors, relatives and their friends and performed what they learned in their classes during their 3 months. Small sketch stories and confirmation based on what they learned and after junior youth performance we see the total change in their parents both the mothers and their fathers you can see the expressions on their faces and right after performances of junior youth we announce to them that we would now like to talk to you about what is the force behind us working with your children over this long period and why we are working with them? so that you can support us and you can help us and we immediately divide the parents into small groups and each of us sits with them with the album and directly teaches them faith and invite them to be Baha’is and they accept just like that and parents are receptive and consolidation are easier as we have already have their children with us every week.

Interviewer : What are you are doing in JB tell us something about that?

Gloria My understanding that in Johannesburg we have good activities there inviting seekers to core activity. They have large number of seekers in their devotional children and junior youth but they have not able to teach their parents directly so we just came here to teach them with Anna’s presentation. People think that we have to complete the whole book but we can just do 15 to 20 minutes and invite the person to be a Baha’i that’s what we basically did. We approached the parents of Junior Youth, the seekers who are coming to the devotional of Baha’i homes they have never been taught the faith directly so we went and taught them the faith so we did here the same thing that we did in New Delhi, but here was more tiring as we go home to home and sometime only person. Ok great we look forward to result.

In Malaysia, 13 year old boy converted 11 adults and 2 youth to Bahaism. WARNING TO MALAYSIANS

Source : http://groups.google.com/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/6e5eba7443ee4804# 

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Mysterious "Son of Manifestation" spending good time in the "City of Covenant"

Abdul Baha Meeting, Enjoying, Spending Time in Gardens, Visiting Animal Zoo, Dancing, Traveling and Kissing American women in 1912. Shoghi Effendi in his notes to Pilgrims in Haifa says, that the "Station of Abdul Baha is a Mystery and it is beyond human mind to understand it".

What is the Station of Shoghi Effendi ?

Shoghi Effendi who is accused to be an Homosexual, died Childless. It should be noted that Ruhi Afnan, Shoghi Effendi's first cousin, made similar allegations about Shoghi Effendi's sexuality, as did Fayzullah Sobhi. The late US NSA archivist, Jackson Armstrong-Ingram, also confirmed the existence of longstanding rumors about Shoghi Effendi's homosexuality.

He was also a Covenant Breaker because Baha'u'llah in Kitab-i-Aqdas ordered 

“Unto everyone hath been enjoined the writing of a will.”

But Shoghi Effendi died of 'Asian Influenza' without writing a will. Later on, Hands of Cause and the UHJ members interpreted and tried to justify this action of Shoghi from their baseless whims. See this video to learn what Baha'is believe regarding this evil personality.

Also read this : http://bahaism.blogspot.nz/2009/08/was-shoghi-effendi-homosexual.html

Ian Semple - the confused member of the Infallible Supreme Baha'i body.

Mr. Ian Semple is not sure which Baha'i year it is. This is the member of Infallible Body. For Haifan Baha'is UHJ is the seat of God on this earth and its decisions are termed as the 'Will of God'. Can you believe this !