by Ravian Bilani25-Jun-2010
There has always been confusion in the Population of the Baha'i Faith followers in every country, since its ORIGIN. Regarding their numbers, "Millions" is the usual figure claimed by them.
Very recently Baha’is are also interested in giving Fake ‘percentage Baha’i population’ for every country. Thanks to the internet – their lie is getting exposed. The number of countries and localities varies with each web site. There is ‘no consensus’ regarding the actual number of countries, the actual number of localities, and the actual number of Baha’i. This trouble in the Baha’i population is not generated by the Baha’i Administration themselves but it is just the continuation of what Abdul Baha and Shoghi Effendi have done.
As a result Baha’is and Baha’i Administration have gone on defensive. They are quick to blame the Christians for this exaggeration and inconsistency. Where did the Christians get their data? It is only from the National spiritual Assembly of the various countries especially the NSA of USA. It is only the Baha'is and their officials who are to blame for the false-misleading reports on the wildly exaggerated Baha'i census. It is not the fault of the editors of Christian World Encyclopedia and Encyclopedia Britannica who relied on information given to them by the Baha’is.
One may ask, why didn't the NSAs , UHJ-ITC-ABM-CBC ever contact the Christian World Encyclopedia Editors, and request a correction? This is because the Baha’is wants to jack-up their numbers- for "public image".
Baha’i Population in Iran as claimed in the time of Abdul Baha
In case of the Baha’i population in Iran the Baha’is speak lies which puts to shame any lover of justice. Sometimes they say one third of the Iranian population is Baha’i and sometimes they propagate that half of the Iranian population is Baha’i. To my utter surprise during my visit to India in 2002, a Baha’i convert informed me that the whole of Iran has accepted the Baha’i Faith. I politely told him that the Baha’is have made a fool out of him .There are not more than 20,000 Baha’is.
Even the Zoroastrians, Jews and Christians of Iran are not being sparred from this onslaught of lie for which the Baha’is claim that all of them have accepted the Baha’i Faith.
Here are the Excerpts from the writing of Edward Brown,
- Ibrahim George Kheiralla says: "Abdul Karim, 1896, assured me that the believers in Baha were fifty millions. I wrote to Syria to ask. Sayid Mohammed, secretary of Abbas Effendi, said that the number was fifty-five million souls." Kheiralla afterwards denounces it as a gross deceit.
- As to Persia, they place the proportion at one-third or one-half. Dreyfus writes, "Probably half the population of Persia is Baha’i." Incidentally the Baha’is claim that there are 3,000,000 (three million) Baha’is in Iran.
- The majority of Zoroastrians are recognized as Baha’is. On the contrary Professor Browne writes: "I had been informed that Zoroastrians were accepting Baha’ism. However after much discussion with the Zoroastrians of Yezd and Kerman for the space of three and a half months, I came to the conclusion that few, if any, had adopted the Baha’i creed." In India the proportion of Parsee-Baha’is is very small.
- As to Jews, Remey says: "In Hamadan there is a large Israelites following of Baha." A census made by a European Jew showed exactly 59 parents and with their children. 194 persons out of a population of 6,000 Jews. As to the United States, I give some particulars in the closing chapter. ." The inference is plain that no native of Israel had become Baha’i through sixty years of contact with Baha and his seventy followers.
- Abdul Baha gave the impression that many of the Christians of Persia are converts to Baha. Dr. J. H. Shedd wrote in 1894, "I have heard of no case of a Christian conversion to Baha’ism." Dr. G. W. Holmes wrote, 1903, "I do not know of a single Christian in Persia, who has been converted to Baha’ism. Some Baha’is who made a profession of Christianity turned back to Baha." Rev. J. W. Hawkes declares that in his observation none of the members of the Syrian (Nestorian) or Armenian churches in Persia have become Baha’is. I have known of one Armenian family in Resht and two men in Maraga, one of whom was a notorious, who kept up his opium using as before.
Population in Iran as claimed at the time of UHJ
From 3,00,000 to 4,61,351 followers. The percentage varies from 0.69 to 2%. This is unimaginable lie. The Encyclopedia Britannica and Encyclopedia of Christians have conveyed that the Baha’is have told them. The reporters are none other than Douglas Martin (former member of House of Justice) and Simeon Kohlman Rabbani (a Baha’i), who gave the information to World Christian Encyclopedia is a Baha’i.
There is one silver lining in the Baha’i census of Iran. It exposes the falsehood. Abdul Baha, leader of the faith (of lies), claimed fifty five millions at his time. UHJ is now claiming only 3,00,000 !!!
Presented below are certain eye-openers !!!
No. Year Population % Reference
1 1984 300,000 Ref: Hatcher, William S. & J. Douglas Martin. The Baha'i Faith: The Emerging Global Religion. San Francisco, CA: Harper & Row (1984); pg. 181.
2 1990 410,000 “Data transcribed by Simeon Kohlman Rabbani”
Ref: Barrett, David B. World Christian Encyclopedia (2001)
3 2001 463,151 (0.69%) Data transcribed by Simeon Kohlman Rabbani.
Ref: Barrett, David B. World Christian Encyclopedia (2001)
Present Baha’i Population of Iran
The actual number of Baha’is in Iran is not more than 30,000. That should not make anyone who is a Baha'i very depressed. The Baha’is should know that exaggerating Baha’i census was the policy of Abdul Baha, Shoghi Effendi and now House of Justice.
What the Universal House of Justice should know, is that by making false claim of number of Baha’is or by parroting Anna’s presentation, no one will ever change his/her Faith. They can organize reflection meetings, deceptive children classes, launch fake Intensive program of Growth have useless cluster growth meetings - the Baha’i population will not grow. The Baha’i population will not grow by sending young Iranian Baha’i girls outside Iran for propagation of Baha’i Faith.
Baha’ism is now a failed attempt, a misfired plot to portray a man made religion to be counted amongst major religions of the world. Baha’ism is dying in its infacy. It will never see the light of the day.
http://www.iranian.com/main/blog/ravian-bilani/baha-i-population-iran
I have heard ("Kitab-i-Hearsay") that some 1/4 of the US Bahai population enrolled through Seals and Crofts' concerts. (And 83.6% of all statistics are made up by someone with a great imagination!...)
ReplyDeleteAs the "entry by troops" barely holds its own against the "exit" by troops, what can we do? I think an Irish bar with an open mike sounds pretty much like the scale of a fireside, which I have always felt is the most effective overall way to find, teach and deepen seekers.
Had you count them yourself ?
ReplyDeleteso did they kill the rest or they had to scape and ask refuge in countries that respect them?
ReplyDeletemore likely Islamic Republic has executed them - imagine if if the world was run by the Moslems?
ReplyDeleteAfter they execute half of the population then they separate all men and women imprison the other half and gang rape them.
I take my hats off to the Baha'is who don't even arm themselves for their own protection.
Alláh-u-Abhá
DeleteNot protecting yourself is simply foolish. Perhaps if they didn't appear as a Zionist sock-puppet they wouldn't be bothered so much...ya think?
DeleteDear Anonymous,
ReplyDeletePlease choose a name for yourself as there are so many anonymous comments and it is difficult to judge who is who.
My Friend, you are my brother in humanity, I love you even if you are a Baha'i. Tell me how many Baha'is are killed by the Islamic Regime of Iran? And also tell me how many Poor Palestinians are killed by the Zionist occupiers? Did the Iranian regime kicked you our of your homes and destroyed them and the families residing therein? Show me a case, please. How many innocent children were killed by the Iranian Regime and how many by the Zionists?
Do you want me to show you the crimes of Zionist State?
When it was that the Shiite moslems gangraped any Baha'i women. Show me a case. And I can show you some Baha'i cases where the Baha'is were involved in incest.
And don't forget that attempt to kill Nasereddin Shah by these very unarmed Baha'is. Don't forget the killing of so many Azalis by these very unarmed Baha'is.
The Baha'is are very famous for Character Assassination and Social Boycotting and pulling the administrative rights, there are so many stories, do you want me to show you some.
I invite you to awake from your slumber, leave this cult, it is going to snatch away all your money in the name of funds and huququllah.
Your welwisher
Baha'i Membership Churning -- the Inflation of Baha'i Membership Numbers
ReplyDeleteOnly a few Baha'is remain active and loyal for life. Largely the Baha'i Faith is a way station for men and women going through a process of religious search and experimentation. Membership numbers reported by the Baha'i administration are, in fact, grossly distorted since most names are people long disaffected from the religion but still carried on their rolls. For Baha'is always seek to point to two things in order to sell their faith: 1) Look at our majestic buildings! and 2) Look at how big our membership is!
However, the Baha'i administration steadily acquires an absurdly inflated membership figure by requiring a formal, rather painful and unnecessary recanting exercise involving a signed repudiation of Baha'u'llah for those who wish to have their names removed. Most are not interested or don't want to be bothered.
See: www.BahaiFace.com
Excuse me, why are you even discussing over an article that was released by Ravian Bilani, who publishes in iranian websites?
ReplyDeleteNone of his articles are representing the truth... like his other one, claiming there are no Bahaí in Europe lol!!
Please my friends, don't waste energy on lies.
As I have said before on his other article: http://bahaism.blogspot.com/2011/09/how-bahai-faith-is-cult.html (read my full comment there)
I am a Bahaí and wanted to learn more about the controversial Bahai things and if there is anything that is wrong with my religion, but this article (like all the others) proved to me that anything "negative" said about the Bahaí Faith or UHJ is just made up nonsense.
Thank you very much for helping me strengthen my faith.
I was raised in the Bahai faith. I left on my own accord. I believe that Bahaullah spoke truth.
ReplyDeleteI have met 'bad' and 'good' people varied religions. I have met Bahais whom have come from Iran.
I have known of Bahais whom have sold alcohol. I have been with Muslims as they drank. I have seen Christians have premarital sex. Does this make any of these religions numbers inflated. People who do not obey ordinances of Gawd?
It's all the same religion. Islam broke in two when Muhammad died. A handful believed the Christ. Bahais challenge authority. It does not matter.
None of us are manifestations of Gawd. We are only men/women. If we fight in the name of Gawd...well...I don't want to be there when Gawd judges.
I have had so called Muslims hate me. So called Christians oppress me. I have seen individual Bahais thirsty for power they did not possess.
and here we are counting numbers like a social junkie counting 'friends' on facebook. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. One remembered for centuries is more than 1000 forgotten in a day. It doesn't matter.
Dear Nuri,
ReplyDeleteThank you for the comment. You really speak truth. Numbers does not matter. My mission here is not only numbers like a "Social Junkie" as you say. The main point of this blog is exposing the Hypocrisy of Baha'i cultists. Whatever they speak is all half truth, they are the biggest hypocrites on this earth. May be you too observed the hypocrisy and left the cult like many others including myself.