Manish Desai's response to the shrewd Baha'is who are using prominent Indians to serve their purposes.

The petition written by Baha'is and signed by prominent Indians can be found here
http://www.bahai.in/news/national-news-of-the-bahais-of-india/petition-to-the-iranian-government-for-immediate-release-of-the-staff-and-faculty-of-the-bahai-institute-of-higher-education.html


Here is a response to it by Mr. Manish Desai
It is pretty immature on the part of 86 Indians Petition to the Iranian Government for Immediate Release of the staff and faculty of the Bahá'í Institute of Higher Education.. As most of these eminent personalities are highly educated – some even authorities on law – it would have been appropriate that they should have verified the facts before making a petition. Has anyone of these personalities checked with the Government of Iran? Are petitions to be signed purely on single side of the story? On whose influence are signatures taken? Do these personalities know that the Government of India cannot support a resolution which is country specific?

This was none of the business of so called imminent citizen to issue an petition .If they were so concerned about the Release of the staff and faculty of the Bahá'í Institute of Higher Education, they would have just conveyed their concerned to the government of India and not breaking into pens or shouting from roof tops. The shrewd Baha’is have used these imminent citizens of India.

Now let us see the facts!
1. The Baha’i community has repeatedly been convicted in several sensitive countries of carrying espionage activities.
The Baha’is have been under scanner for violating law of the land in several countries for carrying out religious conversions by deception. It seems the Baha'i administration is interested in having "martyrs" for its cause in different countries rather than to see their own people save their lives.

2. Baha’is involved in espionage in India
Why, even in India there are cases filed against the Baha’i faith members for possessing fraudulent documents and carrying out espionage activities and for supplying classified defense documents to Iranian and Israeli spying agencies in return making huge amount of foreign currency. (Refer Hindustan Times 13th July 2006 New Delhi Edition,)

3. Baha'i Administration with all modern techniques involved in conversion of Simple Indians.
Recently Universal House of Justice, the apex organization of the Baha’i Faith in a new encyclical has issued a call to Baha’is to go out and actively convert Indians. In this era of globalization, Baha’i administration with unlimited funds use sophisticated, deceptive techniques to lure, brainwash and convert innocent people.

They forcefully convert Hindus by inducement and deception. Many poor illiterate tribal people in Gujarat and Madhya Pradesh were deceptively converted into Baha’i Faith, although anti-conversion law is passed in 11 of the states in India. This will have a disastrous effect on India's political, cultural and social fabric.

For centuries Indians have been forcefully converted into other religions. Religious conversion has profoundly affected our cultural legacy by the after-effects of genocidal coercive religious conversion. It has left its wounding imprint on our individual psyches and our collective consciousness.

Although coercive religious conversion of Hindus in India and abroad has deep historical roots, recent deceptive religious conversion techniques used by Baha’i movement pose serious political, social, ethical and psychological problems.
http://ruhibooks.blogspot.com/

4. Baha’i Teaching Institutes involved in deceptive conversions
On 3rd March 2011, the locals of Wai district in Panchgani caught the Baha’is red handed indulging in conversion activities. The Baha’is arrived in a Mini Bus to propagate Baha’i religion to the local people in Wai. The Baha’is were taken to the police station where Baha’i officials said that "we were conducting practicals for these students". They were told that why the students can’t go to different schools and get their practical training.

The students confessed that they were going to villages for conduction of Baha’i religious classes for children and youths and they were told by their teachers that their course will be completed only when they do these activities. The teacher warned them to be ‘TACTFUL’ while propagating the Baha’i religion.

On seeing the Baha’i books it became clear for the Police that it was a conversion class. As the 'Ruhi Book' that they were having, contained Baha'i religious material and chapters such as "UNDERSTANDING THE BAHA'I WRITINGS."

The Police officials reprimanded Baha’is of their hypocritical behavior and warned them not to teach Baha’i Faith to the students/staff of NETTC as well as locals of Wai and Panchgani.

On further inquiry it was revealed by the staff, that

There are numerous complaints against all the three institutes of Baha’is namely:

• NETTC
• New Era School and Junior college
• New Era Baha'i Academy

The conversion activities going on in these institutes are in the name of Children Moral Classes, Youth Classes etc. In fact some of the staff of these institutes have given a written complaint to the government authorities that these institutes demands 'Conversion' in return of confirmation and promotion in these institutes. Therefore some of the staff just to gain the facilities provided by these institutes like good salary, food, boarding and lodging have apparently accepted the Baha’i Faith, but in actuality they practice their ancestral Religion.

The heads of all the three Baha’i institutions are Iranians who have hired local Indians to go to the villages, schools, colleges and universities to teach Baha’i Training courses which are nothing but purely 'Baha’i Religious Teachings'. Some of these people are well versed in local languages so they cunningly escape the authority scanners.

The staff further gave information that sometimes they have to conduct 'Ruhi Classes' for all the students of the class. The students are least interested in these courses but the staff and students have to do it compulsorily for hours and hours together. These courses have hidden agenda of teaching of Baha’i religious passages. The students are supposed to memorize long Baha’i prayers and quotations in order to enrich themselves with Baha’i Teaching and culture.

Even the tiny tots are not spared from Baha’i teachings. They too have to undergo various Baha’i children courses designed for them, that are based on Ruhi books.

One of the senior staff who has retired from the school and now taken another assignment in one school elaborated the whole teaching process of the Baha’is. He said that Baha’i Faith has no acceptability in the society. Baha’i Faith has nothing new to offer to the society although they claim that they have solutions for all the problems, but first the people should accept Baha’i Faith. In fact Baha’i teachings have been copied from other religions. Therefore in order to spread the Baha’i teachings, the Baha’i Administration emphasizes on establishment of Schools and considers the children as best and fruitful targets.

Some of the parents have seriously objected to Baha’is proselytizing going on in these Baha’i Institutions. But then they have limitations to change the schools at this stage.
http://panchgani-Bahais.blogspot.com/

BAHA’I METHODOLOGY
It has been the habit of the Baha’is to have active public relations and persuade high ranking government officials and eminent personalities in every country to speak for them. Why do the Baha’is never speak of the huge injustice and oppression being meted out to fellow Indian citizens in different parts of world? Are Indian Baha’is, first Baha’is and then Indians?
It is not the first time that the 86 Indian have fallen into the trap of cunning Baha’is. Earlier in 2010 there were 31 eminent Indians who were taken by the Baha’is for a ride. In the Issue of 7 Baha’i prisoners in Iran. This point to a very strong Baha’i network operating in India.

In India from Sorabjees to Mistrys, from Corporators to Member of Parliaments and from State Minister to Cabinet Ministers are being contacted to bring pressure on Iran as if the Government of India has nothing else to do except protect the Baha’is. Inspite of these efforts the Baha’is do not lack behind in claiming that we do not interfere in politics.

Unfortunately, the petition by eminent Indian citizens has served the following purpose for the Baha’is

1. Propgation of Baha’i Faith in India
2. Defamation of Iranian Government
3. Attempt to sabotage the good and cordial relation between India and Iran.

I earnestly request Indian politicians and bureaucrats not to succumb to Baha’is charming persuasion and verify facts and evaluate long term repercussions before taking-up a stand.

Manish Desai
Source
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.religion.bahai/browse_thread/thread/5a86f9ec58a998bd#

6 comments:

  1. This aricle is devoid of logic... It lacks the basic sense.... Suggest the author to look into facts prior to jumping to conclusions

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  2. As stated into the blogpost. I am not the original author of this article.
    The author can be contacted through talk.religion.bahai
    You can direct your comments there.
    Thank you.

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  3. BAHAI FAITH IS A FALSE RELIGION. BAHAULLAH IS A THIEF. JUST IMAGINE HE EVEN CLAIM TO BE THE RETURN OF KRISHNA AND BUDDHA AND HE DOES NOT EVEN KNOW ANY A, B, C, D OF BUDDHA AND KRISHNA. LET ALONE EVEN OF JESUS ETC. HE IS MISLED AND IS MISLEADING SO MANY.

    HE SAID SOME HEAVLY MAID CAME IN HIS DREAM AND HE WAS TOLD HE WAS THE PROMISED ONE FOR ALL THE AGES. SO ITS HIS DREAM THAT HE WANT THE WORLD TO FULLFIL. HOW SICK THIS MAN MUST BE AND HOW AMBITIOUS. YOU CAN SEE IT FROM THE ACTIONS OF HIS FOLLOWERS.

    SO SICK MENTALY AND SPIRITUALLL HIS FOLLOWERS ARE THAT YOU COULD SEE FROM THEIR BODY LANGUAGE AND THE FALSE KNOWLEDGE THEY HOLD.

    ITS JUST NOTHING BUT FANATICISM AND PREJUDICAL MIND OF THE BAHAIS WHICH HOLD THIS FALSE ORGANIZATION TO GATHER.

    MAHAULLAH SPENT HIS LIFE IN SATIFHING HIS BALLS. HE HAD MORE THAN 14 CHILDREN AND HIS FATHER MORE THAN 7 WIVES AND SO MANY CHILDREN EVEN HE DID NOT HAVE ANY KNOWLEGE OF.

    HOW CAN THESE PEOPLE GIVEN TO SO MUCH OF EARTHLY PLREASURE CAN BE THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD.

    THEY SAID HE CREATED HOLY FAMILY WITH HIS HOLY BALLS.

    HOW ABOUT THE REST OF THE WORLD. THEY ARE UNHOLY OR WHAT?

    ONLY BAHAULLAH FAMILY HIS CHILDREN ARE HOLY AND THE REST OF HTE WORLD IS UNHOLY.

    HOW CAN WITH THIS KIND OF NONSENSE THEY WANT TO PREACH THE ONENESS OF MANKIND

    ABDULBAHA HE IS SUPPOSED TO BE ROLEMODEL FOR THE WHOLE WORLD. HE HAS 9 HOLY CHILDREN. SO MANY DIED BECAUSE OF HIS NEGLIGENCE.

    HE IS THE ROLE MODEL. WHO EVEN COULD NOT TAKE CARE OF HIS CHILDREN.

    ITS JUST THAT INNOCENT AND IGNORENT PEOPLE ARE BECOMING TARGET OF THIS BAHAI NONSENSE.

    ITS TIME THIS HYPOCRACY TO BE REVEALED TO THE PEOPLE OTHERWISE WE WILL BE CREATING THE WORLD OF SPIRITUALLY AND MENTALY SICK PEOPLE.

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    1. You need to consult a doctor bcz ur comment suggests you are a mentally sick person who ahs no clue about the Bahai Faith and its followers.As far as our classes are concerned, we teach values and oneness of God, amn and prophets. We dont force any one to be a Bahai, we just give the msg. Dont Hindus, Christians, Muslim teach their Faith?? Is it a crime???? All these articles about our connection with zionism is crap. Our holy place was in palestine as Bahaullah passed asay there and later that area came under Israel. I cant stop laughing when Ilook at these articles. I really dont bother bcz ultimately Truth will be as clear as the shining sun. Allof you, pls read the Bahai authentic texts or join the classes yourself to see what these peoplehave written is a lie. I also want to tell u that dont take black tea bcz these mentally sick people also believe taht if u have our tea, sthng will happen to you.

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    2. Dear Sama,

      Thank you for commenting. You have the right to reply to the comments as you wish in a polite and civilized manner. You see, I don't censor the comments, I publish all the comments be they of Haifan Baha'is, Orthodox Baha'is, Ex-Baha'is, Azalis, Moslims, Christians or Zionists. I really want to give them all a free platform to talk with each other but unfortunately some people use very profane language but I approve those comments also. I have seen at many Persian websites and blogs where Haifan Baha'is use very dirty language. Anyway... that is a different discussion...

      Let me answer your comment :

      About your classes (BCCs, JYCs) : There is really no problem in teaching your religion. Please don't take it in the wrong sense. Every individual has the right to expression and he has the right to express his belief as long as the listener is interested to listen. What is wrong in your teaching is HYPOCRISY and DECEPTION. You people did never say that your intention of teaching MORAL CLASSES are to convert the child and his parents. Please see this post - http://bahaism.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/blog-post.html - listen to what Counselor Gloria Javid says, see how that other persian lady who is teaching Children Classes is introducing HOSEIN ALI NARI as the manifestation of God. Listen to the boy of Egypt - what he says about Ruhi Classes, read the activities of Baha'is of India in Phanjgani - why the Hindus stopped them? Why that person was deported from Uzbekistan? When you want to teach your religion to other, just say them, this is Baha'i religion, this Guy Mr. Hosein Nari is the AVATAR OF GOD (Don't say he was prophet), Say clearly that he was GOD MANIFESTED. he was the senders of all the Prophets, he was the one who spoke to Moses on Sinai, he is the Lord of the Lords, Say all the things clearly, don't try to fool the people under all those beautiful slogans of peace, love and unity. Please.

      About your connection to Zionism : See Israel is an oppressive regime. It has murdered more than 1500 children alone since year 2000. Thousands of defenseless women and innocent men were killed by this regime. It has occupied their lands, killed them and violated 1000s of international laws. Israel is the biggest human rights violator in the world. Do you agree to this? I know Hosein Ali Nari was not there when the Britishers awarded palestine to the Jews. I know that. But the Baha'is today are sitting in the lap of these oppressors and serving them. It is a simple thing to understand... when you do not condemn a crime then you are yourself a part of it. See how many moslems have condemned the persecution of Baha'is in Iran. I have myself seen the signatures of so many moslems against the so called persecution of Baha'is. Show me the letters and signatures of Baha'i intellectuals who have condemned Israel for its crimes... please.

      About Truth : If it is truth, it will shine. If it is dirt, then it will go to the dustbin. See how the US NSA was humiliated by its defeat against the Orthodox Baha'is over Trademark issue. I really laugh when I see your religion registered under Companies Act in various countries and its symbols registered as Trademarks. This is really new to me...

      Regarding Authentic Text : I request the visitors to please visit the genuine baha'i website viz. bahai.org and learn more if they wish. But if you are really in search of truth then you must check all the sources. Read Azali writings also, check the claims of Orthodox Baha'is, see the claims of various sects of Baha'is. According to Hosein Ali Nari himself, shia branch of Islam - which was in minority - was the real islam. So one should not understand that truth is where the majority is....

      Regarding the Black tea : I really don't know what you are talking about.

      I thank you for giving me opportunity to write this comment. Please feel free to write further comments. I will be happy to talk to you.

      Loves and regards
      Naser

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  4. My son, who lived with us for 26 years dated a woman who claims to be in this cult. When they wanted to marry she said we had to sign welcoming her into the family and allowing them to marry as required by Bahai faith. We did this 3 weeks before the wedding and the day after I was allowed to attend their reception my son came to our home to tell us that his wife did not wish to be part of our family and he could not come back. That was it. Now they just abuse me verbally when I try to contact him. This group is a fraud and uses brainwashing on non members.

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